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Want to switch from melanotan II to melanotan-1
07/24/10 at 16:58:12
 
Hi,
 
what could be a working long term dosage for melanotan-1? I have been using melanotan II for one year
now, and I'am losing slowly all effects while using 0.6mg per week. I guess it must  
be much higher for melanotan-1 then, right?
 
Any experiences?
 
Other question: whats a good supplier for melanotan-1?
 
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Re: Want to switch from melanotan II to melanotan-1
Reply #1 - 07/24/10 at 17:17:51
 
Ok, I just ordered melanotan-1 from uslabexports. My melanotan II from them was always good, even when it came from China. Using melanotan-1 from US is helping me to feel more saver then using melanotan II from China. But the China melanotan II was always the only melanotan II I have ever used, and its result was superb.
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Re: Want to switch from melanotan II to melanotan-1
Reply #2 - 07/27/10 at 22:51:04
 
I  have switched over this summer. I've started off this summer with melanotan II and have since the end of May(I think it was) switched over to melanotan-1.
I use the same frequency in my injection regime, instead of injecting 0,5mg melanotan II I administer 2,5mg each injection of melanotan-1.
I can say that it work just as good. Seems like I become more and more sensitive tanning wise with this drug, so I need less and less to achive a good tan from year to year.
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Re: Want to switch from melanotan II to melanotan-1
Reply #3 - 07/28/10 at 22:51:49
 
Hi,  why did you switch from melanotan II to melanotan-1? Did you experience any side effects from the prior and if so, how do you respond to melanotan-1?  I've pondered a switch also, but so far I've always used melanotan II. (I've used it since 2007 during spring/summer then taking a break during the winter months)
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Reply #4 - 08/02/10 at 19:29:38
 
I never had any sideeffects. But using melanotan II for more than 1 year now, I want to give melanotan-1 a try. You can read from many posts that melanotan II is more experimental than melanotan-1, thats the only reason why I switched.
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Re: Want to switch from melanotan II to melanotan-1
Reply #5 - 08/09/10 at 08:41:12
 
For the record, all Melanotan comes from China. If you bought it in the U.S. it was smuggled from China.
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Reply #6 - 08/10/10 at 02:28:07
 
Umm..who is God's name told you that? lol
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Re: Want to switch from melanotan II to melanotan-1
Reply #7 - 08/10/10 at 12:41:56
 
Timeout is right.
There would be no profit made if indeed it would be made in US/Europe, actually there would be a huge loss because its very expensive to buy.
Check the prices on US/Europe Peptide Suppliers, the peptides are listed in their catalogues.
Also no legit company would supply it to those rogue dealers because its illegal to do so, they would only sell to Lab/Clinical/University Research Institutes.
Even in china most legit companies would not sell Melanotan Peptides but some rogue Companies will and the profit made by this for the supplier is 400-500%.
You would be suprised how cheap the melanotan peptides in china really are.
Do not believe the deceptive techniques used by many suppliers, they do everything to maximise the profits.
For example europatan shows a "lab certificate" however if you would have seen a real certificate you would know that its fake and edited.
Every lab certificate has recent time stamps and Quality Assurance / Quality Control signatures, LOT Numbers, etc etc.
Multiple other suppliers use the same "lab certificate" so you know its all bullshit and fake.
 
US Lab Research states that he has US made melanotan.
However the FDA has shut down his US Business and recently he got added on the FDA Red Import Ban List for importing Melanotan Peptides.
His american Vial caps have a different colour however you can choose the cap colour from the lab so that would not indicate that its from a different lab.
So the evidence speaks for itself, plus he has shown absolutely zero proof that its indeed usa made melanotan and rejected suggestions to post his "recent lab certificates".
I do not wonder why...
 
 
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Re: Want to switch from melanotan II to melanotan-1
Reply #8 - 08/12/10 at 09:44:01
 
You're entitled to your opinion but it is not unbiased as you have a long history of attack posts.  The reason I do not post each and every lab cert from my US lab has been explained several times before:
The lab painstakingly develops protocols that will guarantee a minimum purity each and every time.  It covers quality checks of base ingredients to methodology of each step in adding another amino acid in the chain.  They then use this process every time.  Their final documentation is merely a yes/no of whether the minimum purity was met.  There isn't much point in updating the certs when they will only show the minimum purity and therefore be identical to all the previous certs.
I can say that when independently tested, it was a rarity that the product was at the minimum purity.  It exceeded that almost every time.
I do not reveal the name of my lab not only for competitive reasons, but also to shield them lawsuits.  As these peptides are not approved drugs, the labs cannot sell them for that purpose.
 
"Every lab certificate has recent time stamps and Quality Assurance...".  You are describing procedures/documentation for approved drugs and as just said, the labs cannot sell them for that purpose and therefore do not follow those procedures.
 
Just a quick look at the American vs the Chinese product shows more difference than just cap colors.  The American lab does not have the million dollar + lyophilization machine that the Chinese lab has so not as much volume is achieved. Rarely do people who try both products feel there is not a significant difference.  The American gets preferred by 80-90% of customers trying both.  They are indeed different products.
 
Yes, obviously if I am selling Chinese products they would have to be imported, although not necessarily to the US.  
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Re: Want to switch from melanotan II to melanotan-1
Reply #9 - 08/12/10 at 12:26:06
 
Quote from SirLuck on 08/12/10 at 09:44:01:
 There isn't much point in updating the certs when they will only show the minimum purity and therefore be identical to all the previous certs.
I can say that when independently tested, it was a rarity that the product was at the minimum purity.  It exceeded that almost every time.

Terribly wrong.
You get from the lab
-Certificate of analysis, which list the PRODUCED date and the Result Purity, the Result Purity is NEVER the same it differs from each producted batch
-HPLC Cromatogramm / MASS Spectrum
-Certification for Safe Tranportation of Chemical Goods along with other shipping documents
 
Again you never showed any proof that your melanotan is indeed produced in the USA and i doubt you ever will for obvious reasons.
You could easily do that without revealing your source if you wanted to.
Put an american cert/document up for each produced & received batch with the correspondent timestamps and i will believe.
 
And about Europatan:
Dont believe that he uses a German Source.
The german authorities are CRACKING DOWN melanotan peptide suppliers.
The medicine law is very strict and the penalties very harsh.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to gain any profit from an (expensive) European made melanotan if sold for 30$ like he does.
I know Europatans Lab Source, it is of chinese origin.
He used to have the chinese certifcate on his site, unfortunately the picture is not cached entirely anymore.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080707031202/europatan.eu/shop/coa.php?osCsid=b179ff018da9d3dfb651fc08a0bf5fa9
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Reply #10 - 08/13/10 at 09:40:42
 
I just told you, but you don't seem to get it:  They do NOT test and measure each batch.  They establish a PROTOCOL (method of producing) that GUARANTEES every batch will meet a minimum purity.
Your assertion that labs "always run HPLC Cromatogramm / Mass Spectrum tests" on each batch is false.  The only labs that would be required to do that are ones that are not able to establish a protocol.  I will try one more time to explain it:  The concept of a protocol is a method that has been PROVEN to ALWAYS meet a minimum purity negating any need for individual batch testing.  If it doesn't ALWAYS produce the minimum purity, it is NOT A PROVEN PROTOCOL.  Only a less qualified lab would have to test each batch in the manner you describe.
 
I don't know why you mention the "Certification for safe transportation of Chemical Goods".  That is only required for shipments being IMPORTED.  A domestic company is not required to use those.  
 
"...an american cert/document...timestamped...".  Labs do not document in the way you claim.  As I said before, you are decribing documention of approved drugs and the labs will not follow that type of documentation or they would risk being accused of trying to pass their products off as an approved drugs.  
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