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Coma caused by taking melanotan
01/24/09 at 03:40:17
 
So, on Norway's biggest newspaper one of the main head lines read: "Get tan drug can kill you".
Turns out a 29 year old woman used melanotan and fell into a coma.
Cause: bacteria inside the vial.
 
They are also warning about more findings of "fake" melanotan due to bigger demands. Is it safe to buy melanotan II anymore?
Experts are also warning that the over stimulating of melanocytes increase cancer in moles.
 
Time to rethink, maybe your not getting melanotan II at all?
Or was she just unlucky?
Also, is it true it increases cancer risk?
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Re: Coma caused by taking melanotan
Reply #1 - 01/24/09 at 04:05:27
 
The title of this thread should read, "Coma Caused by Bacterial Contamination" if the Norwegian news article is to be believed.
 
I've been researching this from the original news source (Norwegian) via the Google English translation. I guess bacteria is "Sørlandet"?  
 
In the WARNINGS / FAQ Section / New Peptide Users Read! thread this is spelled out in this section about sourcing a peptide:
 
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There are very real dangers of using peptides that are either made at a substandard purity level, contaminated / adulterated, or something completely else (counterfeit) other than a melanotan peptide.

 
The "contaminated" part of the warning would include bacterial contamination. This warning is very serious and highlights the need for people to start having their peptide supplies tested.
 
If the news story is accurate about there being bacterial contamination (I'm learning to be skeptical of news sources lately with their reporting of errors and falsehoods) then there's a number of possibilities for how the bacteria got there number one being that the peptides weren't stored properly somewhere along the line (most likely while in the possession of the woman).  
 
As to the cancer question, this was very much in the minds of the original researchers and they conducted a number of preclinical tests of melanotan-1 and concluded that melanotan-1 had a, "lack of carcinogenic potential" (meaning it lacked the ability to cause cancer). One obviously has to weigh their conclusion relative to what they cite in their studies. I'm researching a bit now to see what cancer research was done with respect to melanotan II.
 
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Re: Coma caused by taking melanotan
Reply #2 - 01/24/09 at 04:47:27
 
Hehe no, Sørlandet = the south / southern part of the country.
There's a reason I wrote the title "by taking melanotan" not "by melanotan".
She got this from TAKING the melanotan, not melanotan itself.
It's a BIG deal.
This person almost died.
In that article it says "from the information we obtained we are not sure if it was caused by the melanotan or the syringe".
I find this odd, out of so many thousand people using it, surely more people MUSt have stored it just as sloppy as this person??
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Reply #3 - 01/24/09 at 04:55:02
 
You've got no argument from me about the gravity of what occurred but your title is sooner implicating a melanotan peptide as opposed to some other factor, meaning the casual reader says, "Oh! A melanotan peptide [itself] caused a person to go into coma!" when that is not the case. A title like, "Coma from Melanotan bacterial contamination" would be much more to the point and not easily confused.
 
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Re: Coma caused by taking melanotan
Reply #4 - 01/24/09 at 04:59:40
 
Quote from Ineedtan on 01/24/09 at 04:47:27:

I find this odd, out of so many thousand people using it, surely more people MUSt have stored it just as sloppy as this person??

 
Indeed, with thousands of people not only using the peptides in Norway but also thousands in the UK, and thousands in the USA one would think that there would have been other reports of problems (and particularly in this forum). For all we know what the woman experienced could have been completely unrelated to her usage of a melanotan peptide (meaning she had some other illness source) but her usage of a melanotan peptide would be seen as the likely culprit. The article is very sketchy and to me seems like the reporters just wanted to go to press with something, anything before getting all of the facts recorded.  
 
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Re: Coma caused by taking melanotan
Reply #5 - 01/24/09 at 05:37:30
 
Why would they instantly blame the Melanotan and not the bac water, or whatever else she may have used?  They wouldn't want to complicate the cautionary tale against the evil barbie drug, which is the story they wanted to write.  I once had some injections that made my skin itch, and I realize now it was almost certainly the old bac water I was using.  She could have used pond water for all we know.
 
But I am glad to see this story here.  It's good to get the info out and let people read and make their own judgments.
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Reply #6 - 01/24/09 at 14:57:48
 
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Cause: bacteria inside the vial.

 
Did they mention the name of the bacteria?
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Re: Coma caused by taking melanotan
Reply #7 - 01/25/09 at 22:05:51
 
Can there be a bacterial contamination in something that is freeze dried? Or is it more likely that a bacterial contamination happens after it has been reconstituted?
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Re: Coma caused by taking melanotan
Reply #8 - 01/25/09 at 22:51:36
 
Probably a stupid question related to last post.
Does Bacteria dies after freezing a reconstituted vial?
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Re: Coma caused by taking melanotan
Reply #9 - 01/26/09 at 05:41:48
 
IMHO
The most critical aspect of a melanotan-1 trial is cleanliness of the injected substance, the injection site and syringe. Always use a new syringe and clean the injection area with alchohol swab. Also clean the vials of both the melanotan-1 and bact water with alchohol all aroung the rubber lid area where you are inserting the syringe. Never insert a syringe back into a vial after touching anything but the seal on the vials. Just one bacteria in old bact water could create havoc.
Bact water is dated so you should throw out any that is close to it's expiration date. melanotan-1 does not have dates, so you should write dates on your melanotan-1 supply when you receive it so you know when it has aged. It will also let you know what order to use your supply.
Keep melanotan-1 in the freezer and Bact water in the fridge for longest life.
It is very likely that on of the big holdups for melanotan-1 getting any kind of FDA approval is due to the fact that is has to be injected vs. taken by pill.
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