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Reply #20 - 10/20/08 at 14:22:34
 
_Blue_ , I recommend that you photograph yourself in the same place with consistent lighting as you pursue your tanning regimen. Such photography will allow you to be able to objectively maintain awareness of the tanned state of your skin. Wink
 
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Reply #21 - 10/20/08 at 14:46:10
 
That was my original plan, since that original setup I used in the first pictures nearly always has the same lighting, and will be simple to reproduce.  I realize that because I see me every day, any subtle changes will likely go unnoticed by me, but do you think I'd have anything to document yet, with only 1.5 done so far?
 
Eh - I should take pictures anyway, just to be sure.
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Reply #22 - 10/21/08 at 13:21:21
 
Date      Amt            Total in:
10/18/2008       0.50      pm         0.5  
 
10/19/2008       0.50      am         1.0  
10/19/2008             -        pm         1.0  
 
10/20/2008       0.50      am         1.5  
10/20/2008       0.50      pm         2.0  no sides
 
10/21/2008       0.50      am         2.5  no sides, nothing new to report

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Reply #23 - 10/22/08 at 16:01:39
 
Upped the dose to 1.0 last night and this morning.
 
So far:
 
    Date                     Amt (mg)            Total in:
10/18/2008             0.50      pm         0.5  
10/19/2008             0.50      am         1.0  
10/19/2008                   -        pm         1.0  
10/20/2008            0.50      am         1.5  
10/20/2008            0.50      pm         2.0  
10/21/2008             0.50      am         2.5  
10/21/2008             1.00      pm         3.5  
10/22/2008             1.00      am         4.5  noticed a slight grayish color to my face (making me pinkish-purple-gray) and have dark circles under my eyes today

 
 
...and I realize it's probably not necessary to give the boring details *every single day*...
 
besides all that, I can't seem to get the columns to line up without a lot of futzing with them.  >:(
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Reply #24 - 10/24/08 at 23:18:00
 
How dark do you hope to go?
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Reply #25 - 10/25/08 at 00:00:05
 
I've caught myself fantasizing a nice medium golden tan to show off my green eyes! But then I'd have a lot of 'splainin' to do about where that nice colore came from.  Angry  Maybe over time if I do it slow enough no one will notice. Yeah. That's it.
 
Realistically, I'd like to get a color similar to the color that majik715 has achieved. Then maybe slowly indulge that fantasy!
 
If you haven't seen his log, it is here:
 
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Reply #26 - 10/25/08 at 00:38:55
 
_Blue_ , I just caught something here about your log. You have photos of your legs and a foot on the first page of your log here. I'm guessing a big part of your desire to tan involves your legs and feet. If that is the case then for good tanned skin / body balance you're probably going to want to limit the amount of UV exposure that typically sun exposed areas get (ie: face, arms, hands). As you get some UV exposure I would recommend that at least initially you keep these normally sun exposed areas covered up with towels (or if you're outside, a wide brimmed hat, long sleeve shirt, and gloves). Part of how the peptides work (which from your reading you may already know) has to do with heightened melanin production in areas of the skin that have already had a decent level of chronic melanocyte "activation". These chronically sun exposed areas (although looking white) will typically have a higher concentration of melanocytes. Melanocytes are the driving force of the melanogensis (melanin generating) with the melanotan peptides so whichever areas of your skin that are richer with melanocytes the more melanin in those areas will be produced.  
 
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Reply #27 - 10/25/08 at 01:42:44
 
Quote from Scott on 10/25/08 at 00:38:55:

Do you understand?

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Yes I do, at least I think I do   Smiley  I'd like an even color all over eventually, of course.
 
Just this afternoon I'm thinking those already-chronically exposed areas are starting to show a bit of color that the rest of me is not. That would also fall into the same explanation as you just gave, even without any UV exposure, correct? In other words, my existing "tan" (consisting mainly of a gazillion freckles) is vaguely seeming to color a bit, while the pasty white areas show no change yet without any UV. I plan to wait until I have maybe 30mg or more in me before doing any UV exposure, hopefully the pasty white areas will have caught up with the over-freckled areas.
 
All the more reason to continue doing what I've been doing and slather on the SPF 9000 under the hat and long sleeves. I have an excuse to dress in that getup now that it's getting colder around here,  where in the 100 F  summer heat  people would ask , "Are you cold?"   Roll Eyes
 
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     Date                   Amt                   Total in:
10/18/2008       0.50      pm       0.5  
 
10/19/2008       0.50      am       1.0  
10/19/2008              -        pm       1.0  
 
10/20/2008       0.50      am       1.5  
10/20/2008       0.50      pm       2.0  
 
10/21/2008       0.50      am       2.5  
10/21/2008       1.00      pm       3.5  
 
10/22/2008       1.00      am       4.5  
10/22/2008             -        pm       4.5  too tired from the gym
 
10/23/2008             -        am       4.5  forgot!
10/23/2008       1.00      pm       5.5  
 
10/24/2008       1.00      pm       6.5  
 
Seven days, and 6.5 mg in so far. Actually slightly more I think, because when I started I squirted four syringes of BAC water into the powder, and the syringe is 30mg, and I'm almost done with the first vial.
 
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Reply #28 - 10/25/08 at 16:01:29
 
Quote from _Blue_ on 10/25/08 at 01:42:44:
Just this afternoon I'm thinking those already-chronically exposed areas are starting to show a bit of color that the rest of me is not. That would also fall into the same explanation as you just gave, even without any UV exposure, correct? In other words, my existing "tan" (consisting mainly of a gazillion freckles) is vaguely seeming to color a bit, while the pasty white areas show no change yet without any UV. I plan to wait until I have maybe 30mg or more in me before doing any UV exposure, hopefully the pasty white areas will have caught up with the over-freckled areas.

 
Yes, it is possible that despite not getting much UV exposure some areas of your skin will start to darken. This was clinically demonstrated back in 1991 (granted with melanotan-1 back then but the principle is the same). The researchers in that 1991 trial actually told the volunteers to use the strongest SPF sunscreen possible and to avoid direct UV exposure and the volunteers still managed to become a bit darker (no where near as dark as they would have had they gotten some UV exposure though). The pasty white areas may not catch up until they are exposed to UV light. The research showed that areas that were not previously chronically exposed did not become tan as readily. You'll just have to be a bit patient and prudent about how you reveal the different areas of skin on your body to UV light. After 30mg your skin should be fairly well prepped for UV exposure (of course everyone is a bit different so be sure to not go overboard when you first start getting UV light).
 
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Reply #29 - 10/28/08 at 13:01:40
 
10-27-08 and I have finished the first vial.  
 
Been staying steady at 1 mg per day.  No sides, no moles, appetite is back to normal, and the thrashing at the gym is picking up   Smiley  There are both tanned and untanned muscled-up patrons at the gym and *definitely* the tanned muscles look so much better. Amazing how just a little color goes such a long way to change the appearance.
 
No sense messing with the chart here since the only daily change is the date.
 
I think I might start looking for a tanning bed to 'dash' through (with gloves on my hands and a bag over my head   Cheesy  ), just as a first-time wake-up call to all those areas where the sun don't shine that things are soon going to change!
 
 
I am getting soooo excited Smiley
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Reply #30 - 11/05/08 at 17:35:07
 
Hi Blue - i just noticed you referenced my log a few posts ago  Wink  Thanks for the compliment!  You are going to look great.  
 
Who is your supplier by the way?  You might have posted it already but I didn't see it.
 
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Reply #31 - 11/05/08 at 21:53:30
 
Ah! We're back in business, I see...
 
Anyway, I have been staying with the once-a-day dose of 1mg, and Nov  4 evening I had my first 5 minute bake in the tanning bed. Still no sides, no darkening of freckles, no new freckles yet, and my total so far is 17.5, actually slightly more, since I fill the vial with 4 squirts at 30 marks on the syringe each (to make 120mg), then use 10 marks on the syringe, I figure the actual daily dose is more like 1.2mg, if my simple arithmetic is correct.
 
Majik715, My supplier is Tan Research.
 
...and I see I can now post here. For some reason I was getting some kind of error this morning.
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Reply #32 - 11/13/08 at 12:34:23
 
I'm up to 25 mg, and spent 7 minutes in the tanning bed. *Ever* so slight color change that could be my imagination and wishful thinking.
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Reply #33 - 11/16/08 at 17:51:45
 
I had my first day of explaining to do yesterday. I knew my sis would sooner or later mention the tan on my face (the rest of me has yet to catch up). Looks good, BTW, and if it didn't, she would not hesitate to say so.
I started with the long introduction about how I wasn't satisfied with the fake tans because they made me look too orange or too brown and when they fade they fade unevenly and blah blah and so on. Eventually I came clean with how this stuff is 'applied' - ... "Eeewww".  
 
In the end, she was OK with it, thought it looked purty darn good, and just wanted to be sure I knew what I was doing. I said it might be best if anyone asks about my new-found tanning ability that she should say something about me volunteering for a clinical trial of this new means of stimulating the body's production of melanin, rather than say I'm shootin' up drugs I bought off the internet...   Smiley
 
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Reply #34 - 11/20/08 at 13:28:53
 
So far, 30mg in.
 
I've been sticking with a daily dose of approx. 1mg per day, except for the last two days  I skipped. I'm covered in zillions of freckles already, and many are darkening enough to be seen, but I sort of expected that. Some of the larger freckles have darkened also but I'm not ready to call them 'moles' yet.
My face went immediately to* just* the right color, even before getting any UV other than the history of incidental daily exposure. I do NOT want it to go darker. It has gone to about the same color as majik's color was at his darkest. Looks good I must say. Hair has not changed color at the roots, and I've been concerned that it might. I don't want to have to start coloring that too. I have premature gray streaks in my hair that give it a salon-streaked look, and I would hate to see reddish-brown roots coming out!  Looks good with the tan and green eyes! Woo!
 As for the rest of me, I've gone from being pale pinkish-blue to a very 'dirty' pale yellow.   Still uneven but catching up slowly. 7 minutes every 1.5 - 2 weeks, but not more often, in the tanning bed. Good thing the lights are on a timer, as I fall asleep *every* time.
 
One interesting effect meanwhile (not from the UV- I don't expose my face in the tanning bed at all, and I wear SPF45 all the time, with a wide-brim hat) has been a slight darkening around my eyes, and I do mean slight, but noticeable. Started out looking like slightly dark circles under my eyes, then it slowly worked its way completely around the eye, and has now evened out enough that it appears to be a *very* light dusting of eye shadow. No more puffy-looking beady eyes. I rather like it.
My sis and I are very close, and Sunday was the first time she's seen me in weeks. Since I've done my 'splainin' about the new tanning ability, I've asked her to let me know if I'm starting to look overdone.
Not much to show yet as far as I can tell, but I'm taking more pictures this weekend. Maybe I'll even show a corner of my face (bashful) to see the difference of before and after.
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Reply #35 - 11/25/08 at 04:44:16
 
So  I took  pictures this weekend, and I can't see any appreciable difference in my legs from pre-melanotan II  to now, but I still only have 30mgs done so far.  
My face, on the other hand, is just where I want it to be, and I'll see if I can post a couple of partial pictures to show the difference, tomorrow.
Right now I'm off to sleep. Ahm tard...
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Reply #36 - 11/25/08 at 17:50:04
 
Here is a (microscopic) picture of me before, and after 30mgs. The lighting angle is the only difference, otherwise all the other conditions are very similar.  My face is only getting daily incidental UV exposure while still wearing SPF45000 under a hat, and I keep it covered during the dash through the tanning bed. If only the rest of me would catch up!
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Reply #37 - 11/25/08 at 18:02:06
 
Oh wow, your tone looks absolutely beautiful _Blue_
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Reply #38 - 11/25/08 at 19:20:50
 
Great results blue!!! keep the great job. your teeth look whiter too  Wink
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Reply #39 - 11/26/08 at 07:20:14
 
Very good colour - looks like a very natural even tone - Awesome. Smiley
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