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darkhorse -Melanotanophile- Got Melanotan.org? Posts: 212	Piperine 02/14/08 at 21:23:20 Hi friends, Anyone ever used black pepper for tanning? I just came across these articles on the compound 'Piperine': http://ago.mobile.globeandmail.com/generated/archive/RTGAM/html/20080214/wpepper skin0214.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7244474.stm Wondered if anyone has anything to add or comment, thanks
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Kakarot Supplier Posts: 514 Gender:	Re: Piperine Reply #1 - 02/14/08 at 23:44:34 interesting find darkhorse, someone should give it a go i suppose, or add it to diet in combo with vit d, coleus, and the other compounds we've discovered help us get a bit of color
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bacon5 -Melanotanner- Got Melanotan.org? Posts: 269	Re: Piperine Reply #2 - 02/16/08 at 19:32:02 I wonder if black pepper is water soluable enough to put in the bathtub. Man, that sounds sad.
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MSHie Global Moderator Causality is Irritating! Posts: 1290 Gender:	Re: Piperine Reply #3 - 02/17/08 at 07:49:36 Perhaps boiling a bunch of finely grated black pepper in water and then mixing the solution with a skin lotion for application...
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Reply #4 - 02/18/08 at 03:26:22

Bioperine is a good source of piperine-- 95% i believe. Bioperine is commonly added to many bodybuilding supplements to enhance their bioavailability. Read about it here www.bioperine.com. From a quick google search, it seems pretty easy to obtain. Interestingly, the Sabinsa Corp. has the patent for Bioperine, and I think they are the ones behind coleus.

Very interesting find dark horse

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darkhorse -Melanotanophile- Got Melanotan.org? Posts: 212	Re: Piperine Reply #5 - 02/18/08 at 11:02:10 I am thinking of attempting a crude experiment by mixing a solution of fine ground black peppar into a skin penetrator type compound. I have some Emu oil, which might work. It's worth a try, any thoughts or comments would be welcome?
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Reply #6 - 02/18/08 at 13:48:44

Go for it dark horse!!! I imagine emu oil would be a good carrier-- definitely worth a shot before trying any of the more irritating stuff. I would imagine you would have to make it pretty concentrated and boil it like mshie said to prevent having a suspension. Good luck!!

Imagine if this works. . . . the answer was in our kitchen cupboards the whole time Shocked

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Reply #7 - 02/18/08 at 15:07:41

great find indeed! especially we know that it penetrates human skin because it has been tried already. But I guess using bioperine would work better than use pepper. It is probably far more concentrated, and still it takes 6 weeks to work.

I doubt it would work on type 1 skin without using melanotan (Since results were obtained on dark skinned people), but who knows!

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bulletman -Melanotaneer- -Forum Log Keeper- Donor Got Melanotan.org? Posts: 587	Re: Piperine Reply #8 - 02/18/08 at 15:52:23 this might be the awnser to the white spots that are plagueing folks on this board(hopefully)
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darkhorse -Melanotanophile- Got Melanotan.org? Posts: 212	Re: Piperine Reply #9 - 02/23/08 at 23:35:24 At least one product is already using black pepper: http://www.xerionskinscience.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath= 4&products_id=13 Perhaps it is the black pepper which is the most effectve ingredient here and maybe a stronger concentration will have a better effect.
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darkhorse -Melanotanophile- Got Melanotan.org? Posts: 212	Re: Piperine Reply #10 - 04/13/08 at 23:40:41 A link to the original paper: http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2133.2008.08464.x
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newnameolduser -Melanotanner- -Forum Log Keeper- Got Melanotan.org? Posts: 260	Re: Piperine Reply #11 - 04/19/08 at 05:17:38 i would be concerned about any irritation from direct contact with using crude pepper on the skin. i think the active ingredient would have to be extracted or synthesized.
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Reply #12 - 04/19/08 at 15:52:56

Hi,

Here are all my notes on piperine in the hopes that more of us will put together experiments. I will be giving a topical fornulation a trial soon, when the weather in the UK turns a little better.

Solubility of substance listed here:

http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/100634784/Piperine.html

Availability of pure piperine from:

http://www.shopphysical.co.uk/viewprod_QUEVSMNP13.php

and from:

http://www.raysahelian.com/piperine.html

Research paper:

British Journal of Dermatology
Vol. 158 Issue 5 Page 941 May 2008

In vivo evaluation of piperine and synthetic analogues as potential treatments for vitiligo using a sparsely pigmented mouse model

L. Faas, R. Venkatasamy, R.C. Hider, A.R. Young, A. Soumyanath

Contact details of researcher involved in main study:

http://www.ohsu.edu/neurology/faculty_info/soumyanath_amala.html?fix

Email:soumyana@ohsu.edu

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Good luck friends!

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darkhorse -Melanotanophile- Got Melanotan.org? Posts: 212	Re: Piperine Reply #13 - 05/09/08 at 21:59:06 Hi all, If you get the chance, follow this thread, looks interesting: http://vitiligocover.com/black-pepper-may-help-vitiligo/
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wmt -Melanotanophile- Donor Got Melanotan.org? Posts: 177 Gender:	Re: Piperine Reply #14 - 04/03/10 at 20:03:48 Did anyone ever try this?
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vinne Melanotanee Got Melanotan.org? Posts: 4	Re: Piperine Reply #15 - 06/29/10 at 09:25:36 no,i didn't.
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