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08/31/07 at 07:08:56
 
OK all, this has been a long time coming but I finally got around to it. Instead of a chart, this time I think I'll just provide a formula to calculate dosage per injection and some guidelines to follow. The formula and guidelines are meant for the broad population of experimenters and will most likely be a good fit for 85% of you. So without further adieu ...
 
First, the non-metric version:
 
A = total mg of melanotan II in vial
B = your weight in lbs
C = (0.0025 * B) = mg per injection
D = A / C = total injections
E = D * 0.3-0.5 = amount of diluant to add to vial
 
For metric users, apply the kg to lbs conversion ...
B = 2.205 * your weight in kg
 
Once you know the number of "total injections" that can be obtained from the given amount of peptide in the vial ... you will then be able to fill the vial with diluant based on that number. You do that by multiplying the total injections by the amount of diluant you wish to use per injection. My preference is anywhere from 0.3cc to 0.5cc or 30-50 mark on your syringe.
 
Here's an example ...
 
A = 10mg in vial
B = 200 lbs
C = 0.0025 * 200 = 0.5mg per injection
D = 10mg / 0.5mg = 20 injections
E = 20 * 0.3cc = 6cc diluant
 
Therefore, 6cc of diluant must be added to the vial containing 10mg of peptide. One should then draw up 0.3cc (or to the 30 mark of the syringe) per each injection ... totaling 20 injections at the recommended concentration of peptide.
 
If one becomes adjusted to this concentration AND does not experience side-effects AND wishes to increase the consumption rate, I would recommend doing 2-3 injects per day spaced out over even intervals of time. The less preferable route would be to draw up more solution into the syringe per injection, but you would do this at an increased risk for side-effects. It has been proven in dosage trials by Clinuvel that using less peptide delivered in a slow-release fashion is significantly more effective at increasing melanin than if delivered in greater amounts all at once.
 
For most first-time Type-I/II users, you will likely need to get through at least 30-40mg. As you can see from the formula, this may take some time to complete. You may wish to up the concentration by drawing up more solution per inject, but only if you experience no sides. Once you have completed your first cycle you will be on maintanence dosing. At that point, the above formula should be the way to go. I'd say 10mg per 4-6 weeks for maintenance.
 
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Re: Melanotan II Dosage Formula for Tanning
Reply #1 - 08/31/07 at 13:34:49
 
One comment and one question.
 
The comment is that the typical vial is too small to hold 6 cc of water.  I recommend 1 cc of water.  It is enough to dissolve the melanotan II and you have a smaller volume to inject.
 
The question is this.  You are recommending small doses - 0.5 mg - because the trials suggested that dose was more efficient.  But suppose a person wanted to inject as seldom as possible and get results fast and did not care if he had to buy a little more melanotan II?  If a person doubled your recommended doses, would he see results faster or do you think anything more than 0.5 mg/injection would be just wasted?
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Reply #2 - 08/31/07 at 14:31:45
 
Thanks Endymion. I've attached a new version of the Dose Calculator and Log spreadsheet that MSHie and I produced a while back, but now it's based on your numbers...
 
It calculates the dilution rate, and tells you how many units you need to draw to acheive your required amount of melanotan. Then all you need to do it tell is how many units you've actually injected, and it will keep track of how much melanotan you've taken, and how much is left in the vial. I may be biased, but I think it's rather nifty.  Grin
 
The file is a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet, and you can download it below.  
 
If you don't have Microsoft Excel, you can download the Excel Viewer here:  
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547 -75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=EN
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Reply #3 - 08/31/07 at 15:00:40
 
I am a type I and dosed 1.5 mgs over three injections a day aand had good results. I probably could have cut back the doses but I was impatient! Oh and I weight 125lbs.
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Reply #4 - 09/05/07 at 17:24:36
 
In the case where your vial only holds a certain amount of diluant ... which is smaller than the amount you calculated ... you'll have to work backwards from the total amount of diluant you can put in your vial. In this case, to maintain the correct concentration of peptide per inject, you'll be relying on drawing up solution into your syringe to a prescribed mark.
 
A = 10mg in vial  
B = 200 lbs  
C = 0.0025 * 200 = 0.5mg per injection  
D = 10mg / 0.5mg = 20 injections  
E = D * X
 
If E is capped at 5cc because of vial volume, determine X.
X = E / D = 5cc / 20 = 0.25cc
 
Therefore, when loading your syringe, only draw to the 25 mark to maintain equal concentration.
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Reply #5 - 09/05/07 at 17:34:32
 
As for injecting as seldom as possible ... you can do that if you can tolerate the side-effects. But like I said, you'd be going against the trial results which indicate a slower release of peptide into the blood stream requires less peptide and achieves better results. If you wish to speed up the process, I recommend increasing the number of injections per day at the concentration given in the formula.
 
P.S. - Thanks Pseudonym ... I'm sure that will help some folks as well.
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Reply #6 - 09/26/07 at 16:44:42
 
Just ordered my first batch and I was curious with this formula you have, could you do it at that dosage with one injection per day or would two injections per day be best?
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Reply #7 - 09/26/07 at 20:24:03
 
Up to you and your toleration level, but sides should be minimized if you follow this procedure.
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Reply #8 - 09/28/07 at 05:18:15
 
Quote from xero_xl on 09/26/07 at 16:44:42:
Just ordered my first batch and I was curious with this formula you have, could you do it at that dosage with one injection per day or would two injections per day be best?

Its way more efficient to devide your daily dosage into two or more injections.
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Reply #9 - 10/02/07 at 02:50:42
 
When i first started using melanotan II i was doing approx 1mg/12Hrs (2mg/day). The tan was insane and no matter how long i stayed out in the sun i didnt burn. The nausea on the other hand was so strong that i had to lower the dosage if i was to continue to use. Ive worked it down to 0.3mg/12Hrs 5 days/week. Ill use the sunbed 6-8 times in a month 10min/session. This dosage has kept me very dark.  
 
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Reply #10 - 10/05/07 at 23:37:08
 
Thanks, interesting info!
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Reply #11 - 11/04/07 at 15:59:37
 
Hi Guys
   I am behind in things around here but I just went to reorder from Melanocorp and now apparently they no longer sell to the USA.  Where can I buy Melanotan II now for a relatively low cost.  I don't know if the United States FDA has messed everything up like they usually do in this country but its ridiculous and I will start buying off the black market if I have to.
  Any Ideas where to buy?
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Reply #12 - 11/06/07 at 09:33:06
 
Yes, go to the buying & selling forum and download the excel supplier sheet.
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Re: Melanotan II Dosage Formula for Tanning
Reply #14 - 02/01/08 at 04:25:44
 
Regarding the Excel spreadsheet:  It all seems very well put together but I'm a little thrown off by the term "units" of bacteriostatic water.  After hunting around in the forum it appears I'm not the only one.
 
I'm assuming 300 units of bac. water would be the equivalent of 3mL.  Would that be a correct assumption?
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Reply #15 - 02/12/08 at 09:41:28
 
yes...units refer to International Units and do indeed mean 100 units equals 1 ML.
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Reply #16 - 03/16/08 at 21:38:09
 
I have a question. Maybe this question has been asked many times before but I havent found any info about it... Sorry..
 
In another thead it sais "The reconstituted melanotan II will begin to degrade around 2 weeks in the fridge." - I weigh 67 kg. This would mean i needed to inject about 0.4mg per injection --> It would take me about 25 days to empty the 10mg vial. But wouldnt this mean I would take "degraded" melanotan after 14 days?  
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Reply #17 - 03/17/08 at 05:49:50
 
at 2-3 injections per day and your suggested dose of .4 your vial of reconstituted melanotan would be gone in 9 to 12 days.
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Reply #18 - 03/17/08 at 08:22:45
 
yeah thats right. but in case of only one injection per day it would take me 24 days.  
The qustion is simple: Is there anything to do to prevent the reconstituted melanotan from degrading after 14 days? (thats what i meant with "this question might be asked before...")
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Reply #19 - 03/17/08 at 08:39:01
 
you wouldn't want to use such a small dosage, however melanotan is a modified peptide, the naturally occuring version would only last a few minutes, the best thing you can do to prevent the solution from denaturing would be to keep it refridgerated, and this would still only last around 14days
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