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Reply #40 - 10/28/06 at 22:27:16
 
Oct. 27,
This was taken after appling the lotion. The PMLE is outside the test patch areas
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Reply #41 - 10/29/06 at 12:15:06
 
Hmm, wonder what it means exactly.  Perhaps just a localized irritation.  You may very well be on the cusp of tanning.  Fingers crossed.
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Reply #42 - 10/29/06 at 17:42:19
 
Socialguy:
Some time back bulletboy wrote:
"the only problem now is even distribution of the cream for a convincing tan".
 
Do you have suggestions for applying smoothly?
Perhaps with filtering it can be sprayed on.  What do you think?
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Reply #43 - 10/29/06 at 21:58:06
 
wiseguy 954,
Thanks for your instant message, I thought it important to answer in the thread. The question asked about taking it internally.  
The highest over the counter concentration I've seen is 20% recommended dosage, one capsule per day. I don't believe this dosage would do anything to give you a tan. Forskolin is a very powerful herb, do some searches and read about it on the web. I believe that taking large doses of this could upset many of the normal metabolic processes in the body which could be very harmful to you if not deadly.
Think about it- the researchers could have just fed it to the mice, Obviously they did not and choose a topical route for a reason.
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Reply #44 - 10/29/06 at 22:15:34
 
Richtan,
I think it is too soon to think about appying this to any large surface of the body, we know nothing of side effects as yet.
I am disappointed though, there was so much interest in Forskolin 6 weeks ago, but I seem to be the only one on this site that is pursuing it in a scientific way and reporting accurate results with photos no less! One test subject does not make for a good experimental study.
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Reply #45 - 10/30/06 at 00:13:43
 
Socialguy:
I'm going to start another test in november building on yours.  
I am researching the purchases now.
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Reply #46 - 10/31/06 at 03:04:43
 
People should be looking to astralagus high dose right now as next logical step, although I believe forskolin topically is effective, but takes longer w/ humans thick skin.  
 
I would go with astralagus high dose internal -- TCM has been using that to help with vitiligo for long long time.  
 
I wanna hear from that girl who was doing it.  Where is she?
 
Forskolin internal works, but cAMP levels are nothing to mess with.
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Reply #47 - 10/31/06 at 19:38:41
 
Astralagus has been used for a long time for vitiligo?   Do you have any references?  Sounds interesting; but, I can't find good science info.
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Reply #48 - 11/01/06 at 01:13:24
 
Lots -- pubmed it.  I even posted a abstract here somewhere.  High oral dosing will be my next attempt.  It's good for immunity too without getting into too much detail.
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Reply #49 - 11/02/06 at 03:09:02
 
High oral dosing will do nothing but give u BAD diahrrea. I ordered 500g of the 20% extract a while back, and was using it for allergies and to try and increase cAMP (to aid fat loss), and would always stop 2 weeks into cos it was giving me the shits (literally).
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Reply #50 - 11/02/06 at 15:13:13
 
brettdawge,
 
Did you try tanning while using the high doses of forskolin?   How much were you using daily?
 
I ask this becasue I found two people from seperate mesage boards that said high oral dosing worked for them but still required UV.  One of them used a 95% extract (in powder form) which may help limit the stomach distress (since it is so pure).
 
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Reply #51 - 11/02/06 at 21:29:00
 
mel-man, where is that board at that they were talking about those high doses internal.
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Reply #52 - 11/02/06 at 22:55:58
 
Quote from mel-man   on 11/02/06 at 15:13:13:
brettdawge,

Did you try tanning while using the high doses of forskolin? How much were you using daily?

I ask this becasue I found two people from seperate mesage boards that said high oral dosing worked for them but still required UV. One of them used a 95% extract (in powder form) which may help limit the stomach distress (since it is so pure).

I admittedly did not try tanning, but even with a daily dose of 300mg I found the GI tract irritation to be too much. Definitely go with the 95% extract if you can....  
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Reply #53 - 11/03/06 at 00:18:33
 
Mel-Man,
These people that reported taking Forskolin orally and getting a tan, were they confirmed Fitzpatrick type I? Remember a type II or III could get a tan with sun exposure regardless of what they took. I still believe if it were so easy to tan a type I by oral dosing the Dana- Farber researchers would have just fed it to the mice. The Forskolin may be changed in the digestive process or the dosage required may be so high that it would have killed the mice. Also, the mice darkened without any sun exposure.
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Reply #54 - 11/03/06 at 18:51:36
 
The one person I found on this message board.  Read all the post by Goku.  He has also used Melanotan.
 
http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=6&t=12559&st= 20
 
Here is a cut and paste of one of his post.  
 
"This stuff is definitely the real deal. And internal works, but you gotta use quite a bit and it takes a while. Take it orally for a few weeks at 300 mg a day and get a little sun, you won't be dissapointed.
 
DO NOT use with lipoic acid of any kind, either r, DH, or whatever. And don't use with resveratrol -- all these will inhibit forskolin. Try to cycle off other supps while using forskolin as many healthy antioxidants will inhibit tyrosinase from my reading.
 
The good news is you only need to cycle on with this stuff for a couple weeks, get tan, and then go back to your supps and enjoy the skin protection for a month at least.  
 
One quick question though for those using -- anybody notice any hyperpigmentation anywhere? I didn't, but when I used melanotan-1 did, so hoping others had good results with Forskolin. "
 
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Reply #55 - 11/03/06 at 18:56:04
 
Socalguy and wiseguy
 
Here is a link to the other one.  This poster gives less details but I've read his other post and he is definately experiece with Forskolin.  He uses the 95% extract and seem very knowlegeable about helath, supplements, anti-aging, etc
 
Here is the cut and paste from the one of his posts:
 
"IME just take a high dose oral and you'll get tanned, no need to go lotioning yourself. it gets really annoying after a while. I was applying like 4 different transdermals during my cycle."
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Reply #56 - 11/03/06 at 19:05:12
 
Socalguy and wiseguy
 
Read my post here about vitamin D.  
 
http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=generaldiscII;action=display;num =1161450490  
 
It works the same way as Forskolin by increasing cAMP.  I'm planning on stacking Vitamin D with Forskolin.
 
Let me know what you think.
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Reply #57 - 11/05/06 at 02:23:03
 
Mel-Man,
I went to the sites you posted, but it still doesn't answer the question what skin types are these people Type I,II,III.?
Type II can tan slowly naturally, Type III can tan easily with UV exposure, but Type I never tans! Unless there are controls and all the facts, as they say in court " objection your honor hearsay".
The member," the big B" on that site posted a link to 2002 study on the effects of Lipoic acid acid and Resveratol on tyrosinase activation in pigmentation using an "in vitro" study, in a test tube and on swine skin "in vivo" study. on a living creature {but applied topically} which confirmed that Lipoic acid and resveratol did inhibit pigment formation.
This was good info, I take Lipoic acid daily, so it could have some effect on my results.
Then go further and read the post by Elrond "Director" Oct 20,06, he also cautions about taking a cAMP modulator in large doses since you don't know what other effects it can have in your body metabolism. Grateful for all the info.
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Reply #58 - 11/05/06 at 03:18:34
 
Socalguy,
 
I'm not saying those post are gospel.  I take into consideration data from many sources before making a decision about supplementation.  This includes "hearsay" from message boards and studies.  
 
The one poster (Goku) is a type 1.  I was following his melanotan usage/results thread on that same message board.  If you read his other threads you will see he is very fair skinned and just trying to get a tan.   I don't believe he has any reason to lie.  
 
Did you read the study I posted above about Vitamin d and cAMP levels?  You will find it very interesting.  Read both the layman explanation and study.
 
That hard evidence that you are looking for doesn't exsist.  From the research I have done - I think that combining higher dose vitamin d with forskolin might be the best chance we have given the information avaliable today.
 
 
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Reply #59 - 11/05/06 at 04:18:40
 
Quote from mel-man   on 11/03/06 at 19:05:12:
Socalguy and wiseguy

Read my post here about vitamin D.

http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=generaldiscII;action=display;num =1161450490

It works the same way as Forskolin by increasing cAMP.  I'm planning on stacking Vitamin D with Forskolin.

Let me know what you think.

 
The difference is forskolin cranks up cAMP systemically.
There is no evidence that vitamin D does that, just that
it enhances the system at the skin level.  
 
 
 
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