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06/15/06 at 04:07:18
 
Ordered 200 mg from Sinopep, and am ready with syringes, bac water & swabs. Both my brother and I will be experimenting, and we both weigh about 72-75 kg.  
 
Plan for 1st 10 mgvial is 6 syringes so 1.66 mg/dose. That will last three days (x 2 people once a day) after which we'll increase to 2 mg/dose and 2.5 mg/dose, as long as headache/nausea doesn't kick in.  
 
Does this sound like a decent plan? Bro is coming off a cold so we will probably wait till tomorrow to start.
 
I am probably type 2- and he is 2+.
 
I have moles & freckles that I will be monitoring. The plan is to try to get some sun every 2-3 days or as often as weather cooperates.
 
I have read that it is recommended to still use sunblock, but am I correct in thinking that SPF30 would mean having to stay out in the sun for hours? Does such a thing exist as SPF3 or 4, and is that what would be recommended? (Have never been in the market for anything less than SPF30 before..!)
 
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Reply #1 - 06/16/06 at 22:22:57
 
Quote from hapax   on 06/15/06 at 04:07:18:
Ordered 200 mg from Sinopep, and am ready with syringes, bac water & swabs. Both my brother and I will be experimenting, and we both weigh about 72-75 kg.

Plan for 1st 10 mgvial is 6 syringes so 1.66 mg/dose. That will last three days (x 2 people once a day) after which we'll increase to 2 mg/dose and 2.5 mg/dose, as long as headache/nausea doesn't kick in.

Does this sound like a decent plan? Bro is coming off a cold so we will probably wait till tomorrow to start.

I am probably type 2- and he is 2+.

I have moles & freckles that I will be monitoring. The plan is to try to get some sun every 2-3 days or as often as weather cooperates.

I have read that it is recommended to still use sunblock, but am I correct in thinking that SPF30 would mean having to stay out in the sun for hours? Does such a thing exist as SPF3 or 4, and is that what would be recommended? (Have never been in the market for anything less than SPF30 before..!)

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You sure you orderet Melanotan, and not melanotan II? Wink  
 
How much did you pay for the melanotan?
 
Btw, the plan looks good!
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Reply #2 - 06/17/06 at 13:42:44
 
Quote from melanotan IIisCool_   on 06/16/06 at 22:22:57:

You sure you orderet Melanotan, and not melanotan II? Wink
How much did you pay for the melanotan?
Btw, the plan looks good!

 
melanotan, not melanotan II. 37$/10 mg, but I got a discount for bulk purchase. + 30 USD for shipping to Canada. (Wired the $ direct from China so saved on the wire fee, but most people have to figure another 30-40$ bank fee.)
 
First injection was last night: ~1.66mg. I forgot to let the alcohol from the swab dry before injecting, which may be why I had a stinging sensation and a raised bump near the site (abdomen), that both lasted over an hour.
 
My brother learned from my experience and avoided the stinging sensation. The site was a little red for a while, but that's it.
 
Sides: nothing else to report from me; my brother's face and neck flushed pretty strongly for the first hour before starting to recede. (His face has always been more prone to flushing than mine.) No nausea/headaches/boners.
 
Our 4 remaining prepped syringes are in the fridge; so we have 2 more 1.66 mg days. Still haven't decided whether to go directly to 2.5 mg after that, or keep the 2 mg way station.
 
BTW, on the sub-Q injection video referenced in the melanotan II FAQ, they say never to put the little orange cap back on the needle, but I presume that for those people who are refrigerating or freezing prepped syringes, that they ignore that particular piece of advice, and put it back (with care) for safe storage.
 
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Reply #3 - 06/17/06 at 15:39:13
 
Thanks for the info! Hopefully you both will have a great and safe success from melanotan-1, and then I'll jump on the melanotan-1 bandwagon myself (instead of using melanotan II) Grin
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Reply #4 - 06/18/06 at 01:14:22
 
Yep, im already jumping on the melanotan-1 bandwagon myself. It looks as though you may have to change your name to "MT1isCool" Wink Cheesy
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Reply #5 - 06/20/06 at 05:22:23
 
So we're 1.66+1.66+1.66+2 = 7 mg in, after 4 days.
 
Bro felt a slight bit of nausea with the increased dose, and he's still getting facial flushing. None for me.
 
Despite letting the acohol dry, I still get a stinging sensation a few seconds after withdrawing the needle, and it lasts for a good half hour. Kinda weird, because most people seem to have indicated little or no sensation at the site itself. I have very low body fat, but am injecting in my abdomen where by leaning over I can pinch what would appear to be enough flesh...
 
Bro believes he has already noticed mole darkening but too subtle to be sure. Nothing for me yet.
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Reply #6 - 06/21/06 at 01:25:40
 
thought I'd share melanotan-1 experience since there seem to be relatively few...
 
started melanotan-1 approx 1 month ago.  I think I may have started with a dosage that was too low.  I didn't see anything for quite awhile.  I was on about 2 mg/day.  Bumped up to 4mg/day for about a week and saw good results.  I had no sides but also may have been because I started with low dose.  First thing I noticed was facial darkening and some darkening of moles.  Nothing else really tanned right away.  It was sort of like dripping something on your head and it slowly leaks down to the rest of your body...first the face, then chest/stomach, then upper arms, upper legs, and only slightly in the lower arms/legs.  I have gone through almost 100 mg to this point and I am definitely much darker than I started.  I've never been this dark actually, although that isn't saying much.  I'm curious what would happen if I stayed on a 4mg/day for a couple weeks.  I get comments now all the time about how tan I look (which NEVER happened before, only jokes about how pale I was).  But, if my whole body was as tan as my face or stomach, I'd be pumped.  My lower arms/legs are definitely the least tan by far.
 
I have also been in the tanning bed about 6 times over the course of 3 weeks I'd guess...but only for short times.  That seems to expedite the process.
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Reply #7 - 06/21/06 at 18:37:21
 
Thanks for relating your experience, MaxPower. Are you in the Northern Hemisphere? It's interesting that it's your lower legs & arms that are least tanned, since they would be the easiest to get sun on, if you get out in shorts & t-shirt.  
 
Meanwhile, we are 9 mg in, but from your experience I guess it may be a while before we notice much. Did you bump up directly from 2 to 4, and still have no sides? Were you doing 2 mg twice/day or a full 4 mg in one shot?  
 
We're ramping up slowly to avoid sides. Bro's flushing was less pronounced last night.  
 
Has anyone experienced insomnia as a side effect? I've been waking up a little earlier than desirable the last few days, though it may well be unrelated to the melanotan.
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Reply #8 - 06/21/06 at 19:45:34
 
Yes, I'm in the Northern Hemisphere...Northern United States.  I think even before I tanned a little, I was noticing that where my face was darkest, then stomach/chest, then the rest.  Maybe the way it works?  But, I haven't had much opportunity to be outside so I have gone to a tanning bed in small time intervals.
 
I went straight from 2mg to 4mg because I wanted to see what results it had.  I probably had enough days on 2mg to get used to it first.  But, 4mg was 3 times per day at 1.33 mg per injection...and no sides still.  BTW, I'm about 88-90kg so my dosage was/is still probably a little low.
 
I have not been sleeping well either but I can definitely attribute that to other things in my life!  Smiley
 
I think I read that around 30mg of melanotan II you start getting good color and that seems about right for what I expected with melanotan-1.  I was getting good color at about 60mg and I read that you'd need about 1.8 times as much melanotan-1 to equal the tanning effect of melanotan II.
 
Just got my 2nd batch of 100mg but am sort of scared of trying to get darker because my face is already plenty dark enough (almost where it doesn't look normal for me).  I think I might just go on a maintenance schedule.
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Reply #9 - 06/21/06 at 23:39:02
 
Quote from MaxPower   on 06/21/06 at 01:25:40:
thought I'd share melanotan-1 experience since there seem to be relatively few...

started melanotan-1 approx 1 month ago.  I think I may have started with a dosage that was too low.  I didn't see anything for quite awhile.  I was on about 2 mg/day.  Bumped up to 4mg/day for about a week and saw good results.  I had no sides but also may have been because I started with low dose.  First thing I noticed was facial darkening and some darkening of moles.  Nothing else really tanned right away.  It was sort of like dripping something on your head and it slowly leaks down to the rest of your body...first the face, then chest/stomach, then upper arms, upper legs, and only slightly in the lower arms/legs.  I have gone through almost 100 mg to this point and I am definitely much darker than I started.  I've never been this dark actually, although that isn't saying much.  I'm curious what would happen if I stayed on a 4mg/day for a couple weeks.  I get comments now all the time about how tan I look (which NEVER happened before, only jokes about how pale I was).  But, if my whole body was as tan as my face or stomach, I'd be pumped.  My lower arms/legs are definitely the least tan by far.

I have also been in the tanning bed about 6 times over the course of 3 weeks I'd guess...but only for short times.  That seems to expedite the process.

 
Was the melanotan-1 experiment your first contact with the melanotan peptides at all, or have you used melanotan II before? If you've used melanotan II before, how much did you need to get tan?  
 
 
Btw, I've gotten so dark with melanotan II now that it's starting to look almost unnatural due to my haircolor, so off we go to the hairdresser! Grin
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Reply #10 - 06/22/06 at 05:21:00
 
Day 6, 11 mg in. No sides to speak of so far, 2.5 mg tonight.
 
Days 1, 2, & 6 I've gotten 20-30 minutes of midday sun (split front/back), and the deathly palor is gone from my skin, but probably little of that is due to the melanotan.
 
I've read that it's good to get UV exposure right from the beginning though, so am trying to get what I can. Am lucky to have a rooftop terrace above my home office, so if the weather's good and the clients are quiet, I can sneak up to get some vitamin D.
 
I guess multiple injections/day are the way to go, but until I get faster at prepping the needles, we may be sticking with 1/day.
 
Darkening of moles may have begun; a little hard to judge at this stage.
 
MaxPower, did you cover or use a high-SPF lotion on your face, when tanning, to try to even out the tan? I guess you have noticed improved colour independent of UV exposure...
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Reply #11 - 06/22/06 at 07:28:15
 
RE: melanotan II - no I have not used melanotan II before.  This was my first usage with any of them.  I started with melanotan-1 because I didn't want the added side effects of melanotan II.
 
RE:  SPF - no I do not use an SPF lotion although I should...my face is really dark.  But, the specific bed that I use has an adjustable facial lamp and I turn it to the lowest setting, which is good.  Smiley
 
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Reply #12 - 06/22/06 at 21:20:56
 
Maxpower,  
 
What skin type are you and have noticed any new or additional freckles or hyperpigmentation spots with melanotan-1?  
 
Thx.
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Reply #13 - 06/22/06 at 22:21:02
 
I would say I am skin type I
 
I did not notice any new freckles - the ones I do have blend in a lot better than the times in the past when I got too much sun.
 
hyperpigmentation - yeah, my face.  Smiley  OK, just kidding, but I have moles that got very dark and a few moles popped up that I didn't know I had...not many though.  Any place that got very dark like that were very small such as moles.
 
It really is a bummer that my face got so much more tan though because I'd see how much darker I really could get on arms, legs, etc...within reason of course.
 
anybody else have results like this?
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Reply #14 - 06/25/06 at 05:21:56
 
Day 9; 18.5 mg in. 30 mins more sun on day 8.
 
Day 8 sun seemed to have more effect than similar periods earlier, so the melanotan may already be kicking in. (Or alternately, it's the accumulation of time.) Not that I look Mediterranean, let alone Hispanic yet.
 
Not sure that I have new moles, but some freckles have gotten darker to become almost the colour of moles. Hardly a show-stopper so far, we'll see what happens.
 
I have started using sun block on my face & neck to try to avoid the problem you had, MaxPower. I will extend to other areas as needed to try to keep things even.  
 
Of course, my buttocks will remain white as a sheet, but heck, we need to keep one spot to see what effect Melanotan has on skin *without* UV exposure. All in the interests of science...
 
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Reply #15 - 06/28/06 at 03:38:32
 
my before/after pics after 100mg of melanotan-1 - both pics were done with same room/wall, same lighting, same camera, no editing.
 

 

 
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Reply #16 - 06/28/06 at 03:45:36
 
Great results!!!!! Seems like you got very few sideeffects, and very few new spots!
 
If you had used melanotan-1/melanotan II before, I'm sure you'd see results faster than you did, it seems like people get results much faster after the first cycle is completed.
 
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Reply #17 - 06/28/06 at 03:59:26
 
Holy race changes, MaxPower..
 
That's pretty impressive. Thanks for sharing the pictures.
 
We're 26 mg in, day 12. Rainy past couple of days, but the slight darkening is not fading as it normally would. Some freckles/moles have definitely darkened, but nothing alarming so far, just enough that I can be 100% sure something is afoot...
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Reply #18 - 06/28/06 at 04:00:56
 
Quote from hapax   on 06/28/06 at 03:59:26:
Holy race changes, MaxPower..

That's pretty impressive. Thanks for sharing the pictures.

We're 26 mg in, day 12. Rainy past couple of days, but the slight darkening is not fading as it normally would. Some freckles/moles have definitely darkened, but nothing alarming so far, just enough that I can be 100% sure something is afoot...

 
Thanks for the update!
 
Have you seen any completely NEW spots, or are all the ones that have darkened simply spots that you've had all along?
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Reply #19 - 06/28/06 at 04:06:59
 
I saw a few new moles...or at least they showed more so that I finally noticed.  But, definitely had some that darkened a lot.  Sides were minimal for me but I started pretty slow.
 
hapax, you are about at the point where I started seeing some results (30mg for me) so your post is right on with what I saw.
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