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July 18th:
 
10 mg from Pro-research came with a 2.5cc - 3cc bottle. I mixed 2 cc of water and injected 2 mg of melanotan II (0.4cc) for the first go. Nearly all of the 10mg dissolved in just 1 cc of water in about two minutes. The addition of one additional cc saw the few remaining bits dissolve immediately. This is quite a bit higher than the dosage I expect to stick with. It works out to 0.0259 mg / kg. I will go to 0.02 mg / kg from here on out but wanted to verify the effects to confirm the quality of product as well as to be amused at the [hopefully] frequent, ultra hard, and completely uncalled-for erections. Too bad my girlfriend lives in Houston... By the way, I'm 31, 6'0" and 180 lbs.
 
Injection site: right abdomen, 1 1/2 inches from bellybutton. Some redness around injection site and mild itching. Might have been the fact that I swabbed the site with alcohol pad immediately after withdrawing the needle. I'll have to avoid that next time. I was completely calm before the injection. I thought I would be more nervous. The BD ultra-fine II syringe did not hurt at all. Nada. I couldn't even feel it. I read somewhere that would happen and I guess I believed it at some level because it was a cinch.
 
I'm writing this 5 minutes into the shot and I am definitely feeling slight dizziness and mild but definite nausea.
 
About an hour in, nausea got worse. Not so bad I ever felt I was going to run for the bathroom, but uncomfortable. I also started stretching and yawning. Now these felt good, really good. When the stretch was done, though, the nausea would be waiting. Then the erections hit. Good God... I must have had one all night and had very peculiar, but not unpleasant dreams. Woke up with a rager. I still feel the vestiges of nausea and I'm hoping the spontaneous erections have made their last appearance because I'm off to the gym now.
 
Damn, got another big ol' hardon while eating some granola. Fun... I'm satisfied that the product is genuine, though I base this only on my side effects being identical to those reported by others, including people on this list and the subjects in the various academic papers.
 
July 20th - August 4th
 
I have been injecting 1mg every day. For the first three or four days, there was a definite feeling of nausea and a loss of appetite, but these effects become progressively less pronounced with each dose. The one thing that has remained pretty constant is erections. I get them at the oddest times, usually at work. It reminds me of high school and I find it more amusing than annoying. I also get them in the morning...and boy do I ever...definitely not a bad feeling.
 
I have a lot of freckles--not as many as redheads you see that are apparently in the process of connecting the dots, but far too many to count (yes, yes, I'll post the damn before pics when I get a chance--they're waiting to be offloaded from my digital camera). I didn't think I had any moles. Well, about 4 or 5 days in, a few of my freckles on each arm, one near my armpit, one on my chin, a couple near my ears and a few on my legs began to get darker. After the first crop, only a few stragglers have surfaced since. They don't look bad...I took them as a sign that things were progressing on schedule.
 
I should mention that I have never tanned...I have never had a tint on my skin that was not fish-belly-white or red, with the exception of freckles. And believe me, this is not the usual yada yada you get from people. You know, the person who's trying to commiserate with you, who says, "I've never been able to tan...you should see me in the winter! I'm as white as you are! Look at my arm!" Then they pull up their sleeve and you pull up yours and compare the undersides. Invariably, the stark contrast between the two makes them sheepishly replace their sleeve. I have been on the beach every day for three weeks in Rio, lounged in the pool for 72 hours straight in Puerto Vallarta, and lived in Arizona for a year, but I have never so much as gotten a hint of a color that is not lobster. Succinctly put, my mutated receptors tell my naturally-produced alpha-MSH to fuck off.
 
Well, things are taking a turn for the better. I'm on day 17, which would be the 8-9th injection taken EOD. I was at the beach this past weekend and laid in the sun for a couple of hours. I started out a bit red--felt like I had managed a sunburn. But it seems to have been steadily easing and is being replaced by something approaching a tan. I have definitely reached the point I had always desperately (and in vain) hoped for each time I laid in the sun. It's most apparent when I'm out in natural sunlight. For the first time in my life, my arms actually have a "healthy" looking color where they exit my sleeves. I've gotten this effect via sunless tanning lotions, but I find those last only two days if you properly exfoliate. Better yet, my face and neck and hands have color that is beyond just red for the first time. Even my feet, though they've received very little sun so far.
 
I'll repost after this coming weekend. I'm off to Martha's Vineyard where I will hopefully have a chance to deepen the already encouraging results.
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Reply #1 - 08/04/05 at 19:31:28
 
This message is a bit of a rant, but is related to my experiences with Melanotan II experimentation and I thought it would be worthwhile to share my thoughts.
 
Let me offer some advice: don't tell your friends you're planning to take a drug that will allow you to tan. If you insist, however, don't mention that it's not FDA-approved. Finally, if you've come this far already, for chrissakes don't mention that you're going to be self-injecting this drug. That's not to say you shouldn't inform someone of what you're doing. It's an inherently dangerous proposition, and someone ought to be around who knows what's going wrong if you need to go to the emergency room.
 
Why? It's simple. Anyone who cares about you (and also--not so coincidentally--can themselves get a tan) will be genuinely aghast at the idea you'd risk your otherwise perfect health in such a reckless endeavor. They will be shocked and appalled at your vanity, your stupidity, your egoism. In short, they will have no empathy, and I mean NO empathy for your motivation.
 
It's helpful to explore motivation, and I've been thinking about mine a lot. Being tan is not a big deal in NYC. It's not like living in Arizona or Rio de Janeiro, where people literally worship the sun. When I'm in downward facing dog in yoga class, I can spot a sprinkling of people in the class as pale as I am. People here don't make a big deal about the color of your skin. Many people go whole months without seeing the sun. I mean this is NYC, people would barely have the time to spare a passing glance if you had two heads. Aside from the odd week or weekend in a tropical vacation spot, it would not appear that I have a good reason to want a tan.
 
Except I do. And I want one badly enough to justify the risk of injecting myself with some non-FDA-endorsed, synthetic drug. And I won't try to justify my desire by squaring off the potential risks of the drug against the potential risks of skin cancer. In all honesty, I want a tan for its cosmetic benefit.
 
Not having a tan your whole life--and much worse--not being able to get one despite your best efforts, is not unlike Chinese water torture. Many small social cues, each laughable and harmless in and of itself, combine for a devastating cumulative effect. "Oh my God, you're so white!", "wow, you make me look tan!", "I've never dated anyone before who was so white!", "ooooh, looks like you need some sun...", "put your shirt back on, you're blinding us!". Just examples of the endless litany of friendly, joking remarks. Fact is, it's not socially unacceptable to make fun of someone's lack of tan because everyone assumes it's easily remedied. Just a quick jaunt in the sun, and you'll be fine. If you can manage to convince someone that you really can't get a tan, they are quick to point out that they really don't mind that you don't have a tan--and they don't. Then they assure you that nobody else minds either--and they're convinced of it. So, nothing to worry about! That settled, white person placated, off comes their shirt, and they're busily baking in the sun...hard at work on the tan that nobody would mind if they themselves didn't have.
 
Your friends are not being completely honest. For starters, people do care about tans. A good tan implies vitality and wealth. People find a golden tan attractive at first glance. Does having pale skin mean people will not find you attractive? Of course not. In a place like NYC, it's a small piece of the overall beauty equation. However, it is clearly a factor. People notice it, and as previously mentioned, often feel obliged to comment on it. Your friends and significant others are so sure of themselves when they consider the question of your skin tone because they know it's a small thing and probably actually remember occasions where they've teased you about it and meant nothing.
 
Unfortunately, understanding that people don't really care that I'm pale isn't enough. It doesn't allow me to happily proceed with my life, forever unkissed by the sun. The problem is that these small but constant reminders have been filtering into my consciousness for the past 30-odd years. The message from advertisements, movies, brochures, beaches, ballgames, playgrounds, locker rooms, friends, girlfriends, you-name-it is the same: "wow, what a great tan!" It's the congratulatory refrain reserved for members of the tanning set, of which I would never otherwise be a part.
 
It is hypocrisy for someone with a tan to tell me my experimentation is mere vanity. Is it reasonable for a man with a full head of hair to accuse his balding friend of vanity for using propecia? How about a woman with C cups accusing her friend with a boy's chest for wanting a breast augmentation? We're not talking about botox to get rid of wrinkles--wrinkles that all of us will get as we age. We're talking about addressing a lifelong deficiency--a condition that never fails to elicit at least a mild lambasting at the hands of modern society's aesthetic.
 
I am a cynical person. As such, I find plenty to ponder in this situation. Of one thing I'm absolutely certain: when this drug becomes commercially available, virtually every person who has expressed dismay to me over my usage will have a prescription. This thing will be huge--most people, even those who are tanner than I will ever be on this drug, want to be tanner still.
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Reply #2 - 08/04/05 at 20:12:15
 
Hi Spencer, Love these posts it is nice to hear some personality (no offense to anyone else) around here. I can completly understand every feeling and thought as i have lived it too you explained it so well.  
Personality is the most important thing but being tanned does help a little you are right.  I have already notice that I get a bit more attention these days (superficial B******s)  
 
Great post laughed and cried with you!
 
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Reply #3 - 08/04/05 at 21:32:34
 
Thanks, snowhite. Glad you enjoyed the posts. I introduced the topic of my experimentation to a table with two editors, a novelist, a child psychologist and an engineer and the sh*tstorm that resulted was an awakening to say the least. People were literally screaming. Well, I certainly don't like being accused of excessive vanity, regardless of whether there might be real merit in the claim. I pondered and came to conclusions that I felt I should pass on to this list.
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Reply #4 - 08/04/05 at 22:27:52
 
You are soooooo refreshing!
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Reply #5 - 08/04/05 at 23:39:00
 
AMEN BROTHER. Here's to hoping the melanotan II works
 
 
 Succinctly put, my mutated receptors tell my naturally-produced alpha-MSH to f**k  
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That gave me a good laugh
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Reply #6 - 08/05/05 at 01:41:24
 
Great post indeed!  It's exactly how I feel and a lot of others on this board can probably say the same.  You've provided me with relief and encouragement to not let the degrading comments that are probed at me by various people, though innocent on the surface they may be,  to get me down and make me feel guilty about my obsession for a superficial look, as it appears to them.  It's really so much deeper than that and your words seem to put that into perspective.  Thanks!
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Reply #7 - 08/06/05 at 00:47:09
 
Awesome post - worthy of a newspaper or magazine article. One thing I have always used as defense to ignorance about the drug is that it has been around for close to 14 years and it has passed Phase I/II human trials which means its non-toxic to the human body and it works. That should shut down any BS that might get flung your way.
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Reply #8 - 08/13/05 at 02:14:37
 
OK, I'm at day 25. Got a weekend at Martha's Vineyard, a day at Coney Island, and two trips to the tanning booth (10 mins each) under my belt. Here are the results...I hope nobody finds it pornographic. I took before shots and after shots, but the lighting is so different it's difficult to tell. The tan line pretty much says it all, especially since I did one of the tanning sessions with no underwear, so the white color is not even my actual paleness.
 
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Reply #9 - 08/13/05 at 02:23:58
 
Thanks for the pic and congrats on the tan!  So you took injections EOD, right?  Also, how much melanotan II was in your system at the time of the pic exactly?
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Reply #10 - 08/13/05 at 02:25:55
 
One more thing.  Which part of your body has gotten the most color do you think?  Your stomach looks pretty GOOD!
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Reply #11 - 08/13/05 at 09:34:06
 
I took injections every day. I weigh about 180, but took slightly more than the recommended dosage. I took 1mg/day, and the tan in the photo is at day 25. My face (even with spf 15 face lotion) got the darkest fastest. My arms were right behind, followed by my back and stomach. Legs are the slowest by far.
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Reply #12 - 08/13/05 at 09:47:26
 
Great result!!!!
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Reply #13 - 08/13/05 at 09:54:15
 
any possible way to get a picture out in real sunlight?
 
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Reply #14 - 08/13/05 at 10:20:21
 
Let me add to that.....i'm glad you got those results, you've never been able to tan and judging by your first and second posts in this thread, you really deserve it and i am really glad you acheived it. i bet you're overjoyed. i've injected 18mg so far. 1mg everyday for 8 days, took 6 days off, then did 1.33mg every other day. Still pale as ever, stomach and chest might be a half shade darker than unexposed skin, tahts it, but i also weigh 160 and am hoping that another 10mg will do the trick. Keep us updated, good job!
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Reply #15 - 08/13/05 at 10:29:18
 
That pic makes me so d..m jealous!  Honestly, I wish I was even half as tan as you, Spencer.  But I am happy for ya.
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Reply #16 - 08/13/05 at 14:41:12
 
I think consistency is the key here. On day 18, I burned at the beach and it took a couple of days to get color. At day 25, I seemed to get noticably darker after 10 minutes in the tanning booth with no sunblock. The last time I did that, I literally fried.
 
I will probably be out and about this weekend in the sun and I can probably get a pic for you in sunlight. I was out last night with a white shirt and my friends just could not stop teasing me. "Just because you're brown now, you can't just do whatever you like!", etc. Smiley
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Reply #17 - 08/13/05 at 14:44:58
 
QSilverTwo: believe me, if I got a tan, so can anyone. My friend and my sister, both as white as I am, started the drug also. They did about 15 days and ran out of melanotan II. They didn't get even slightly tan. Nothing. It comes down to those extra 5-10 days, I think. There is always the chance that neither of them would tan at all, but since my sister has the exact same complexion as I do, I heavily suspect it comes down to consistency and quality of the peptide. Both of them are going to try again, so I'll keep you posted.
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Reply #18 - 08/13/05 at 15:16:49
 
hi spencer 1st of very positive results indeed im very happy for u now u have a nice tint of colour to you.like qsilver i to have not acheived any results im on injection 17 tonight ive had a sunbed and got a couple of days of sun aswell but nothings happened as yet.just a little sensitivity to the skin.anyway the vibe im getting so far is this drug wont help everybody maybe cause of certain chemistry or something but we keep our fingers crossed.
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great results!!  were you as freckly prior to the drug than you are in that photo??
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