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06/13/05 at 17:48:12
 
After many experimentations and comments from the forum members, I have decided to retire the information in this thread ... but will keep it here for historical purposes. The original intent of this thread was to follow the initial trial dosage levels used, but I have found that for a significant percentage of experimentors, these levels are too high and cause too many adverse side effects. Please see the updated guidelines for dosing in the new thread on this subject.
 
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The following chart assumes a concentration of 0.02mg/kg of melanotan II. This amount is low enough to produce a tan with minimal side-effects. Although, you could also go with a lower concentration, say 0.017mg/kg -- but you will need a different chart. One more thing, the chart was compiled assuming that you are using 10mg vials.
 
10 mg / 12.00 injections = 0.833 mg  ---   42 kg =  92 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
10 mg / 11.50 injections = 0.870 mg  ---   43 kg =  96 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 11.00 injections = 0.909 mg  ---   45 kg = 100 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
10 mg / 10.50 injections = 0.952 mg  ---   48 kg = 105 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 10.00 injections = 1.000 mg  ---   50 kg = 110 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
10 mg /  9.50 injections = 1.053 mg  ---   53 kg = 116 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  9.00 injections = 1.111 mg  ---   55 kg = 122 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
10 mg /  8.50 injections = 1.176 mg  ---   59 kg = 130 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  8.00 injections = 1.250 mg  ---   63 kg = 138 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
10 mg /  7.50 injections = 1.333 mg  ---   67 kg = 147 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  7.00 injections = 1.429 mg  ---   71 kg = 157 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
10 mg /  6.75 injections = 1.481 mg  ---   74 kg = 163 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  6.50 injections = 1.538 mg  ---   77 kg = 170 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  6.25 injections = 1.600 mg  ---   80 kg = 176 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  6.00 injections = 1.667 mg  ---   83 kg = 184 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
10 mg /  5.75 injections = 1.739 mg  ---   87 kg = 192 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  5.50 injections = 1.818 mg  ---   91 kg = 200 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  5.25 injections = 1.905 mg  ---   95 kg = 210 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  5.00 injections = 2.000 mg  ---  100 kg = 220 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
10 mg /  4.75 injections = 2.105 mg  ---  105 kg = 232 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  4.50 injections = 2.222 mg  ---  111 kg = 245 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  4.25 injections = 2.353 mg  ---  118 kg = 259 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
10 mg /  4.00 injections = 2.500 mg  ---  125 kg = 276 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
The number of injections corresponds with how much diluant you will need to add to the vial. For instance, if you weigh 190lbs, you will be able to get 5.75 injections per vial at the proper concentration. Simply add 5.75cc to the vial.
 
The above assumes you are using 1cc syringes. If you are using 1/2cc syrings, divide the injection number by 2, add this much diluant. You will still have the same number of injections however. Following the above example ... 5.75 / 2 = 2.88cc, so add that amount. You will still have 5.75 injections but you will use 1/2cc syringes.
 
 
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Reply #1 - 06/14/05 at 01:39:41
 
great post.. thanks for taking the time to do that.. i am sure it will be helpful to everyone .. including myself.
 
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Reply #2 - 07/03/05 at 22:03:29
 
I weigh 175 lbs.  I've done 2 cycles of 10mg of melanotan II.  The first batch was of dubious quality as it had not been correctly manufactured.  I did 2mg EOD.  Noticed some good tanning effect.  
 
I did another 10mg from a different supplier, this time at 1/2 that dose.  ie:  1mg EOD.  I am very pleased with the tanning results.
 
It's been almost 4 weeks since my last dose and with minimal exposure since (1x 15 min tanning bed session per week) I am still very dark compared to my normal skin tone.  
 
When I do another 10mg it will be at the lower dose, or perhaps even lower.   I will not start that until I find my color fading to pre melanotan II levels.
 
This dosage is somewhat less than recommended above, but I seem to be getting good results from it.
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Reply #3 - 07/05/05 at 06:27:55
 
Who did you get your supply from? I received my first batch on Saturday and gave myself my first injection. I did not feel or see any flushing nor did I feel nausea. I used the calculation chart and reconstituted with bacteriostatic water accordingly. The only thing I did different is inject over one minute. I have actually decided to give myself two injections per day. 12 hours apart and at time of writing, I have injected myself 5 injections. I have not had sun exposure. I so not see any change in the color of my skin. I will go to the tanning bed tomorrow and see if I have any results or should I see results. Are my expectations unrealistic? Help! Going to the beach on Thursday. May have to resort to airbrush tanning!
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Reply #4 - 07/06/05 at 04:47:42
 
Hi Tina,
 
Please ask your question seperately from this post -- its not relevant to the chart. In answer though, if you are splitting the normal amount of daily dose injections in two and you've only had 5 injections = 2.5 daily dose ... you are not anywhere near having a good build-up yet. It takes at least 8 full daily dose injections to be ready for beach sun.
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Reply #5 - 07/06/05 at 05:23:35
 
Some people have asked me about doing calculations based on a smaller volume vial of melanotan II. Let's say you have 10mg of melanotan II, but it came in a vial that looks like it will only hold 4cc of diluant maximum. What do you do?
 
Well, the chart above is based on 1cc = 100mL syringes. This makes it easy for us to modify. For example, let's say I weigh 190lbs. I would use the following row from the chart ...
 
10 mg /  5.75 injections = 1.739 mg  ---   87 kg = 192 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
For the 10mg melanotan II, it says I need 5.75cc added to my vial. But wait, I can only add 4cc maximum! What to do? OK, simply find the ratio ...
 
4cc/5.75cc = ?/1cc = ?/100mL ---> ? = 70mL
 
So fill the vial with 4cc. Each injection will now be drawn to the "70" mark on the 1cc syringe vs. the "100" mark that the original equations were based on.
 
NOTE: If you are using 1/2cc syringes, you'll need to do more math.
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Reply #6 - 07/11/05 at 04:07:15
 
I don't think it was ever made obvious, but to complete a full schedule or cycle for tanning, you will need approximately 12-15 injections given at the target concentration for your weight.
 
For example, I weigh 192 lbs; therefore, I will need to administer 15 injections at 1.739mg. In total, I will need 27mg to complete a full cycle. So, I will need to purchase three 10mg vials.
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Reply #7 - 08/30/05 at 23:31:44
 
I wish to revise my statement above based on the Fitzpatrick scale for skin type.
 
Type-I: 15-18 injects at target concentration
Type-II: 12-15 injects at target concentration
Type-III: 9-12 injects at target concentration
 
To figure out how much melanotan II you will need to buy, you should find out what the target concentration is for your weight based on the chart above and your skin type.
 
For example, let's say you are a Type-I and weigh 184lbs or 83kg. The corresponding row from the chart would be:
 
10 mg /  6.00 injections = 1.667 mg  ---   83 kg = 184 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
Which means you need 15-18 x 1.667 mg = 25-30 mg (approx.)
 
Now depending on how you administer your daily doses, it may take longer than you think to see an effect. My rule of thumb is not to seek UV exposure until one has completed at least 2/3 of the total amount required. In this case, that would be 2/3 X 25-30 mg = 17-20 mg. It would not be until AFTER this test subject has administered 17-20 mg of melanotan II that he/she would even think about using a tanning bed or sunning outside for any length of time.
 
I've noticed some folks skipping the recommended daily dose concentration as above and opting for 1mg/day type of schedule. I think this is fine if you really don't like the slight side-effects, but just remember that using this method and going by the example above, the test subject would not have completed his cycle until a full 25-30 days have gone by.
 
Another example, let's say you are a Type-II and your corresponding row off the chart was:
 
10 mg /  9.00 injections = 1.111 mg  ---   55 kg = 122 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
You will need to buy 12-15 x 1.111 mg = 13-17 mg
 
Since the amount needed for a single inject is close to 1mg, this example doesn't really demonstrate how a 1mg/day schedule will stretch out the time to administer.
 
Let's do one more ... let's say you are a Type-I again and you weigh 200 lbs.
 
10 mg /  5.50 injections = 1.818 mg  ---   91 kg = 200 lbs   @0.02mg/kg
 
You need 15-18 x 1.818 mg = 27-33 mg
 
Using the 1mg/day will take you 27-33 days to complete your cycle. Using the chart recommendation for daily dosing 1.818mg/day will only take you 15-18 days.
 
NOTE: your length of time to administrate a cycle will increase by 2 if you decide "every other day" (EOD) is what you want to use. Its up to you to caclulate what kind of schedule works best and from that you'll know when to look for signs of results.
 
Again, I would suggest no UV exposure until 2/3 through your cycle. Lastly, never take more than your target daily dose amount on a given day (assuming you only want a tan and do not want major side-effects). You may break up a daily dose amount into smaller doses and take these doses within a day if you wish however - to mimic slow-release injection.
 
 
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Reply #8 - 09/10/05 at 18:13:27
 
Just for getting it right: A full cycle is aprox. a month?
 
 
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Reply #9 - 09/10/05 at 18:22:25
 
Quote from Jester   on 09/10/05 at 18:13:27:
Just for getting it right: A full cycle is aprox. a month?


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It depends on your skin type.
 
 Type-I: 15-18 injects at target concentration
Type-II: 12-15 injects at target concentration
Type-III: 9-12 injects at target concentration
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Reply #10 - 09/10/05 at 18:53:14
 
ok, so the one-cycle-range is 18 - 36 days (one shot every other day), right?
 
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Reply #11 - 10/26/05 at 18:12:39
 
Am i missing something blatant here? doesnt 1cc=1ml  
                                                       1000cc=1ltr
Going by the 192lbs(87kg) model, I add 5.75cc=5.75ml of water to the vial, to easy. The part were it says that the chart is based on 1cc=100ml??? syringes really throws me. I have been told to add  (150cc) 150ml of water to my 10mg vial to give me a 15ml:1mg ratio. Do those little insulin needles even hold 15ml? Just seems like alot to me. Are some vials larger than others? Surely there not that big as to take 150ml of water. Please, Im sure that its not that difficult, im just missing something basic here If somebody could explain this to me i would be indebted.  
 
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Reply #12 - 10/28/05 at 12:44:25
 
HELLO..... i must have forgotten to mention that i was willing to give 100mg of the most potent melanotan II to the person that was loving enough to answere my million dollar question. Because ive never had to inject myself before i had no idea what vollume the syringes held so when i was told to reconstitute the melanotan II with 150cc of water by a very experienced melanotan II user, I wigged out man, F%#@!! these things must be massive. So hopefully you can understand why i posted the above. Well it turns out that my friend left out the decimal point, so it should have read 1.50cc instead of 150cc.(der) So to anyone that didnt understand the amount of water to use when reconstituting their melanotan II in a 10mg vial, it really is simple. Ive been told that 5ml is a good amount to add because that way every 0.5ml-0.5cc (50 lines) would have 1mg melanotan II disolved within. WARNING. Dont take this as official advice though because im not an expert yet (if you hadnt noticed).
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Reply #13 - 11/02/05 at 15:21:33
 
Ok, now that ive received 5, 10mg vials of melanotan II and 1ml (1cc) syringes, it couldnt be any easier. 1.5ml (1.5cc) of water is the perfect amount to add,the powder dissolved easily. 5ml could also be used if your vials are big enough to hold that much and you dont mind injecting more than 3 times the amount of water.One 1ml syringe has 100 lines (units) marked on the side of it, so if i were adding 1.5ml (1.5cc) i would fill the syringe to the 100 line 1ml (1.0cc), add to vial, then fill the syringe again only this time to the 50 line 0.5ml (0.5cc) then add also. Simple! If you want 1mg of melanotan II just fill your syringe to the 15 line. 10x15= you guessed it, 150 lines or 1.5ml (1.5cc)
 
******* THIS IS FOR 1ml (1cc) syringes *************
 
(I am 90kg and i inject 1mg twice a day 12hrs apart and im going to do this for 15 maybe 20 days)  
My first injection i mistakenly filled the syringe to the 30 mark (2mg) melanotan II. I had persistent nausia for almost 24hrs. That was annoying. I should have waited till i had received all the components for this experiment,it would have saved me from sounding like a real dikwad coz it really is a simple process. Hopefully this post will help people understand a little better though.  
 
 
 
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Reply #14 - 11/10/05 at 16:12:13
 
Quote from endymion96   on 07/06/05 at 05:23:35:
Some people have asked me about doing calculations based on a smaller volume vial of melanotan II. Let's say you have 10mg of melanotan II, but it came in a vial that looks like it will only hold 4cc of diluant maximum. What do you do?

Well, the chart above is based on 1cc = 1.0mL syringes. This makes it easy for us to modify. For example, let's say I weigh 190lbs. I would use the following row from the chart ...

10 mg /  5.75 injections = 1.739 mg  ---   87 kg = 192 lbs   @0.02mg/kg

For the 10mg melanotan II, it says I need 5.75cc added to my vial. But wait, I can only add 4cc maximum! What to do? OK, simply find the ratio ...

4cc/5.75cc = ?/1cc = ?/1.0mL ---> ? = 0.7mL

So fill the vial with 4cc. Each injection will now be drawn to the "70" mark on the 1cc syringe vs. the "100" mark that the original equations were based on.

NOTE: If you are using 1/2cc syringes, you'll need to do more math.

 
Please dont take offence to these corrections, i was only clearing this little error so as not to confuse other morons like myself (i know there out there) in future readings. The extensive explanations you give about this subject are amazing and i for one appreciate them all. Thanks mate.
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Reply #15 - 11/10/05 at 19:48:28
 
Sorry if this has already been answered in another topic, but approximately how long will a fully 'cycle' based on the above chart last. That is if I wait until 2/3 of the injections are finished before I expose myself to UV, how long after the injections are finished can I expect to reap the benefits (assuming I continue to go outside on a moderate basis)
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Reply #16 - 06/02/06 at 21:06:56
 
hi all.  not sure if this question should be a new thread or not, but i do appreciate any and all feedback, particularly from the moderators and those with experience cycling melanotan II.  i'm a newbie and am looking to order  from M-R for the first time, and want to get everything i need for the full order.  I weigh ~170lbs and am a fitzpatrick 1 (maybe 0 if there were a category).  I know from the chart i'll need to inject 1.6mg by 6.25x (from 10mg vial).  I am still confused regarding syringes and the correct amount of dilutant/bacteriostatic water to add.  i would like to order a 50mg vial of melanotan II and all the bacteriostatic water at one time, i'm just not certain as to how many 5ml units of bact water to purchase and whether or not i need any other mixing vials.  lastly, i live in PA and the instructions suggest that one needs a prescription to obtain syringes.  any thoughts as to how to go about this?  sorry if this post is an old topic, just nervous about the entirre purchasing/mixing/injecting process.  never did it before.  thanks in advance.
 
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Reply #17 - 07/29/06 at 23:21:32
 
Hi,
 
I hope to be trying Melanotan in a few months. This chart is VERY helpful, but I see that it is for Melanotan II; would I go by this chart as well for regular Melanotan? Or would I have to double the dosages? Smiley
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Reply #18 - 08/09/06 at 21:57:23
 
Please help!
 
I'm 270lbs.  After reading the dosing chart, I assume that I will be adding 4cc's of bacteriostatic water to each 10mg. vial of Melanotan II and injecting 1cc for each dose.  Is that correct?
 
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Reply #19 - 08/10/06 at 03:54:39
 
That's pretty much correct, but I ordered from Joedaman and I was only able to put 3cc's of bact. water into the vial, that filled it up completely.    
 
So, for your body weight you're going to do four injections per 10 mg.  What you could do is put 2cc's (200 units) of bact water into the vial and then do each inject at 1/2cc (or 50 units).  That way you also won't have to use so much water per inject.  Does that make sense?
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