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03/25/04 at 20:14:25
 
Hey thought i would post saying i received the first part of my melanotan II order last night and started my 1st melanotan II cycle.
 
I have choosen to take a weaker dose of .02mg/kg instead of the clinical standard of .025mg/kg. It's only a reduction of 20% per dose and from what i've read it shouldn't effect the tanning results but may help eliminate side-effects, which would be nice.
 
An hour after taking the dose last night i noticed a complete loss of appetite but wasn't really nauseated. I got an erection as well but it only lasted half an hour or so, and i got another one an hour later but it only lasted 20 minutes or so; went to sleep and woke up today with a erection but it only lasted 30 minutes after i woke up so it wasn't a big deal at all. Today i feel normal as best i can tell. So the side-effects weren't a big deal at all, and i expect them to diminish even more with continued usage.
 
After a week or so of taking the melanotan II i will start getting some sun, if the weather is nice i'll lay out instead of using a tanning bed.
 
I'll also be sending out the cycles to those who ordered threw me, unfortunately my order was broken into to seperate synthesis batches, because it's size wasn't big enough for a large scale synthesis but was to big to do on a normal synthesis so two batches needed to be done. I believe i still will have a few cycles left over on the second batch to be sent to me in the next week or two. And i also will get my melanotan II(version bremelanotide (PT-141)) with the second batch so i get to test out the nasal spray and see if that works in arousing me.  
 
By the way i have type I skin and auburn hair(that looks brown but got stuck with the red head skin...)
 
If any big progress in color is made i'll post otherwise i will post results after the first cycle.
 
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Reply #1 - 03/30/04 at 06:18:18
 
I've gotten some emails already about my results thus far, so i figured i'd just quickly address the board, since i know a lot of people are anxious to hear the results from those of us testing.
 
Today is my 6th day from starting my first melanotan II cycle. I've only gotten about 2 hours of sun exposure so far. One hour on the 3rd day and 1 hour on the 5th day, but thankfully i can already see a difference. I've got noticable color although very light on my face/neck, arms, and stomach... This is very promising to me because normally i would not have gotten anything except a light shade of pink from the amount of sun i've gotten so far; and honestly there is a big difference between totally pale and the light color that i now have in my face, i look a lot healthier already, especially for the sunny california climate i live in.
 
I'm going to go to a tanning bed this week, hopefully i'll have the time tomorrow. So i will update the board in another week or so.
 
But so far so good... now i just hope i can get darker and have the rest of my body like my legs and shoulders(which never ever ever get any color) pick up some color as well
 
also the side-effects have become less noticable, i still lose some of my appetite after a dose... the most noticable side-effects are the occasional spontaneous erection that can pop up 5 or 6 hours after taking the dose but at least they now fade like a normal erection, and on top of that my sex drive has gone way up, i'm horny all the time and get erections very easily... it's really like being in junior high all over again... i'd say the bremelanotide (PT-141) is going to make a killing when it gets released if they can harness this arousal effect in a nasal spray.
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Reply #2 - 04/06/04 at 21:43:50
 
Can Nasal spray be used for tanning purposes or is the injections the only alternative?
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Reply #3 - 04/07/04 at 01:41:46
 
The reason why nasal spray is used as the method of drug introduction for bremelanotide (PT-141) (and originally melanotan II) is so that the drug would have an easier time of passing through the blood-brain barrier to reach the brain via the nasal passages.
 
bremelanotide (PT-141) was developed to stimulate the MC-4R receptors found in the brain in order to increase libido. Hence an injection or otherwise would slow down and may decrease its effectiveness.
 
You would not want to use the same method of delivery for a drug like Melanotan or melanotan II for tanning purposes since it needs to act on the MC-1R receptors found mostly in the skin.
 
melanotan II does also have interactions with the MC-4R receptors at high enough dosages, but that's not the effect were going for.
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Reply #4 - 04/07/04 at 19:12:49
 
well said endymion.
 
Just to add to it, i wouldn't be suprised that with bremelanotide (PT-141)(which is still for the most part melanotan II) that there may still be some mc-1 receptor stimulation with the nasal spray but it probably isn't enough to make it a clinically viable effect or side-effect.
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Reply #5 - 04/08/04 at 16:12:47
 
Hey so here's an update.
 
I'm glad to report that my tan is darkening and now i'm getting compliments from people- "hey you look tan what's going on?". Don't get me wrong my color is still relatively light but it is starting to look very nice and thankfully i'm now getting some color on my legs/back and shoulders which have never gotten any color at all in my past tanning experiences.  
 
My stomach is the darkest followed by arms and face/neck.  
 
The tanning beds have really seemed to speed up the process for me.  
 
For me being a skin type I with auburn hair with the red head skin a light tan looks very nice on me, so i'm happy with the results so far and i'm going to keep going to the tanning beds and we'll see how dark it gets.
 
I guess i'll update again in a week or so.
 
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Reply #6 - 04/09/04 at 00:27:28
 
I forgot to add that i'm getting the best results from the "bronzer beds" the beds that have a higher percentage of uva and a lower percentage of uvb.
 
The reasoning behind this is that it is my understanding that the uva rays are the main rays that brown the pigment that your skin creates, and uvb are the rays that are most important in stimulating your cells to produce the pigment, they are also the rays that cause the skin to burn/turn red. So it is my understanding that the melanotan II would stimulate the skin enough that a large amount of uvb wouldn't be needed, but having the uva rays to brown the pigment created due to the melanotan II stimulation may produce a quicker/darker tan.
 
 
 
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Reply #7 - 04/15/04 at 12:40:21
 
Hey all thought i should post a quick update after seeing the results i've gotten this week.
 
Basically i'm getting a lot darker, infact if my face keeps getting browner i'm going to have to cover it when i go to the tanning bed because it's going to start to look tooo dark for my other facial features(hair/eye brows ect...)  
 
My face/neck has gotten really dark this week, I saw some friends today that i saw last week(when i thought i was sort of tan) and they couldn't believe how tan i've gotten in a week(they only saw my face and arms)
 
Some parts of my body like my legs and shoulders are still not as dark but they are making progress though.
 
Last summer i went to the tanning beds to try and get some color and gave up after going a couple of times because i got so little color it wasn't even worth it. Now when i go to the tanning bed i notice that i'm darker within a few hours after.... the difference is night and day.
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Reply #8 - 04/15/04 at 17:08:38
 
Rubbersoul,
 
Wow! That's great news! Such an exciting report. That's funny to hear that you are actually getting 'too dark'. I'm curious, have you been sharing the facts of your experimentation with your friends/associates (who must be sitting there wondering about you..hehe)?  I trust that all signs of side effects are completely gone now (with maybe the exception of an increased labido). Have you been taking photos of your progression and keeping a journal?
 
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Reply #9 - 04/15/04 at 19:35:01
 
Yes good news for sure.
 
I have a before photo and i will take an after photo, but i don't have a digital camera so it's not like i can take daily pictures and upload them on my computer and see how they are showing my tan... unfortunately
 
What facts are you referring to?
All i'm using is the peptide mixed with bacteriostatic saline(any sterile water injection saline would probably work, bacteriostatic is the one used in the clinical trials). I use .5cc of saline to mix with the peptide(for me roughly 2mg of peptide per dose). I store it in the freezer, i follow the clinical trial guidelines of every other day for the most part, i finished my second cycle. I use tiny 30gauge diabetic needles for the injection, so it is virtually 100% painless, i inject SubQ into the buttocks.
 
I'm pretty sure i've posted all these details before; and i'm a little hesitant of making a every detail step by step dumbies guide because for one you can find pretty much all that stuff in the US clinical trials that i documented, and frankly anyone who is going to go to the trouble of sourcing a peptide company for making this and testing it out on themselfs shouldn't be depending on my posts for 100% of there knowledge, they should instead be depending on the melanotan II US clinical trial and then asking the board if something written in it doesn't make sense
 
And the other reason is; if i did post a step for step guide and someone who is desperate to try melanotan II but hasn't done much of any research and has no experience with this type of thing doesn't have any math background depends 100% on it and let's say miscalculates the dose at 0.25mg/kg instead of 0.025mg/kg and takes a 20mg dose and really hurts themselfs... who are they going to blame?  
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Reply #10 - 04/15/04 at 19:43:39
 
Hey rubbersoul,
 
   I believe Scott was asking if you have told your friends about Melanotan, or if they just think you've been going to the beach or something Wink
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Reply #11 - 04/15/04 at 21:42:19
 
Hey Rubbersoul ...
 
Congratulations on your success ... from reading your posts, it sounds like you went directly into your second cycle after your first, is that correct? How dark had you become after your first cycle? I guess it is difficult to tell how long the tan would have lasted after a single cycle because of the swiftness with which you began your second. Is the effect of the second cycle cumulative? That is, did you get darker after the second cycle than you did with your first?
 
I'm looking forward to getting some cash together and giving this a try!
 
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Reply #12 - 04/17/04 at 09:29:45
 
I haven't told any of my friends/family about the melanotan II
 
I did continue right to the second cycle and now into the 3rd cycle because my goal wasn't to see how effective one cycle was, my goal was/is to get a good tan. And from reading the clinical trial results done with 1 cycle only; i felt that 1 cycle wasn't going to be enough to get good color for my skin type I skin. And since i was planning on getting some sun i wanted to make sure i would see results.
 
doing continuous cycles like this is probably similar to the stimulation you will get from the implant. If i remember correctly the implant last for 1 month and is constantly stimulating your skin during that period, which is why it is so much more effective then subQ injections.
 
I will stop taking the melanotan II soon, i'm curious to see what kind of maintenance will be needed to keep the tan.
 
 
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Reply #13 - 04/17/04 at 15:08:21
 
Hmmmmm ... Rubbersoul raises an interesting point ... since the implant constantly releases a-MSH, I'm curious if anyone would have any thoughts on daily injections with a very small amount. I'm used to daily injections since I use injectable HGH every day. I guess the big problem would be in dose preparations. With HGH I can prepare the solution for two weeks worth of injections and keep it in the fridge. For melanotan II, it sounds like it begins to oxidize as soon as the BS water hits it.  
 
Someone had written about mixing their melanotan II with a polymer and injecting it. Curious to hear their results.
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Reply #14 - 04/21/04 at 22:21:04
 
I think doing daily injections with a lesser amount would probably work well, but it is more trouble to have the amounts further divided and doing the injections everyday ect...
 
Also i wonder if it would be effective to mix the melanotan II with the saline for a 2 week period and store it in the fridge, this way you wouldn't need the melanotan II divided in microscopic amounts for your daily injection.  
 
I have a suspicion that the melanotan II could last for the two weeks in the solution in the fridge. Look at bremelanotide (PT-141), it is essentially melanotan II and it is in a liquid form that stays potent in the fridge for a reasonable amount of time.
 
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Reply #15 - 04/21/04 at 22:26:02
 
Good point about the bremelanotide (PT-141) Rubbersoul ... any comments from our peptide-ologists? It was my understanding from the earlier posts that as soon as the water hits the peptide it begins to oxidize. Would it be the same with saline as opposed to BS water, or do they do something to the peptide with the bremelanotide (PT-141) to stabilize it against oxidation? I know nothing about the science and chemistry of all of this ... just going on what I've read, and so far everything suggests that the peptide potency begins to take a nose dive as soon as it is mixed with the diluent.
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Reply #16 - 05/14/04 at 11:00:28
 
Hey well i guess i should post another update:
 
I have finished my 3rd cycle probably 10 days ago and wont start my maintenance cycle until my next batch is finished.
 
I haven't gotten to the tanning beds in about a week, because i didn't really want to get any darker and i wanted to see how my tan would fade. And so far it  has faded some but is still a very nice medium tan, well not on my feet they are still pretty pale. But i guess i can't complainSmiley
 
I do think however, for me being a skin type I to maintain a good medium tan i will probably have to do a cycle every month or so which is roughly just 1 dose a week, followed by 1 tanning bed session or some sun bathing... i think this is realistic to maintain a good tan.
 
In my experience my results didn't start kicking in until my 2nd cycle and the use to tanning beds, i started with the beds during the end of the 1st cycle, and tried to go to the beds the day after a dose, to get really good color. I did my 2nd cycle on a every other day dosing. With my 3rd cycle i did every 3rd day or 4th day and used the tanning beds once or twice a week. But my face started getting really really dark,to dark for my other features,  during my 3rd cycle so i cut down on the tanning beds and haven't gone in a while now.  
 
My face/neck tanned the quickest and best, followed by my stomach/back and arms(whose color was only slightly lighter, followed by my legs and hands and then upper-chest/shoulder(noticably lighter but still looked good), and then my feet got only slight color.  
 
So i am very happy with my melanotan II expierence, honestly it worked better then i had expected, my feelings where that if i was able to get a light tan with this stuff i'd be happy, because from some of the clinical trials i studied it sounded like melanotan and melanotan II where much less effective on skin type I people, so i was a bit worried, but then again these clinical trials never used tanning beds or sun bathing, and this is what made my results go from hardly noticable to as dark as i could possibly want. Needless to say I plan on using it to maintain my tan until melanotan becomes available to the public.  
 
Now my 2nd melanotan II order could have gone a lot smoother but my source says everything should be fine with this new batch... i expect it to be. And obviously i plan on placing future orders.
 
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Reply #17 - 05/14/04 at 14:23:42
 
Rubbersoul:
 
Glad to hear things are going well ... and THANKS for the updates! I'm amazed that all of the others who have been on melanotan II haven't come back to post ongoing results. I can't wait to get some cash together to jump on! Congrats on your success. Looking forward to hearing more.
 
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Reply #18 - 05/14/04 at 20:01:21
 
justken,
 
glad my updates are appreciated,
 
I know many of you must be super anxious to try this stuff outSmiley
 
and i think some of the other members didn't get a chance to test out as many cycles as i did.
 
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Reply #19 - 05/25/04 at 02:07:24
 
Rubbersoul,
 
So happy to hear about your results!!!  AWESOME!
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